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  1. ether-ore

    What was Jesus doing from when he did that thing when he was 13 until he got killed on the cross?

    BTW it's ether, not either
  2. ether-ore

    What was Jesus doing from when he did that thing when he was 13 until he got killed on the cross?

    I've had time to reflect on what I said. Also I've discussed this with my sister and she has given me some good advice. So, I want to apologize for being harsh. I would like to say that the idea of "getting rid of people" because of their beliefs is disturbing to me. It is this kind of...
  3. ether-ore

    Scripture gives bad behaviors credibility

    It is not possible as far as I am concerned to separate scripture from religion since the latter is based on the former. I consider it a mistake to lump all Christians together. The doctrinal beliefs within the umbrella of the name "Christian" are much too diverse for such a generalization...
  4. ether-ore

    What was Jesus doing from when he did that thing when he was 13 until he got killed on the cross?

    When someone says they want to "get rid of" Christians and other people of faith... yeah... alarms go off for me. I tend to get images of the Holocaust, to say nothing of the horrors of early days of my own denomination. Certainly she is allowed to question her own faith, but to condemn all...
  5. ether-ore

    How can one reasonably go from deism to theism and religion?

    It sounds like you've made up your mind. What is your concern with others thinking something different... I mean beside what you think of their mental capacity?
  6. ether-ore

    Is it okay to disagree with your religion?

    This post certainly goes a long way in explaining your other op about wanting to get rid of all people of faith by suggesting they terrified little children. Were you told that you would go to hell for being sexually active? Were you terrified? And by feigning terror, do you now want to strike...
  7. ether-ore

    What was Jesus doing from when he did that thing when he was 13 until he got killed on the cross?

    Wow... Get a grip! Just because there is no record of what Jesus did for twenty years of His life, you have a problem with the doctrine of the gospel? All we know about that period is what it says in Luke 20:53: "And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." Just...
  8. ether-ore

    Would this be considered God?

    Being LDS, my own belief is that God is not merely a pervading spirit or force. My view is that we cannot know anything about God except He reveals it. Since He only reveals Himself through prophets, it then becomes my task to read the various testimonies concerning the nature of God and to...
  9. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    That was a rant full of gross misrepresentation. The "do" unto others is what is practiced. "Do" is a verb... an action. Christians have not physically 'done' anything to homosexuals. Expressing an opinion that the homosexual lifestyle is wrong is not 'doing' anything to them. The "melting...
  10. ether-ore

    doesnt it get old?

    I keep hearing that remark. That the details are made up is your perception. In reality, the details are in the scriptures and are not made up. What God expects (in general) of His children and how He responds to their activities is found in Leviticus 26. The details of what He expects of...
  11. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    To say that some human in not living up to their potential does not take away their humaity. I haven't lived up to my full potential, but I'm still human. I disagree that God made them that way. It is the nature of the physical body which our spirits inhabit to have lusts, desires and...
  12. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    I do in fact believe that I have those answers. They are not my answers, but they are answers found in modern LDS scripture. I do not damn anyone. I only know what God's laws are and what non-conformity with them means. I do not claim to speak for God in the sense that I claim to be a...
  13. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    First off, I'm not dehumanizing anyone. What I am doing is suggesting that some humans are not living up to their full potential. Your idea of dehumanization comes from your reaction to what I said and not from what I actually said. Heterosexuals who happen to be sterile are not responsible...
  14. ether-ore

    Is It Wrong To Hate Abrahamic Religion?

    I think the error you are making is that you are suggesting that all disagreeable speech (from the point of view of the target) is hate. To say to a brother, I think you are in error, is not the same as saying I hate you. Yet this is what you are trying to suggest. The brother has a choice...
  15. ether-ore

    Trusting God(s) Considering Experience

    You are correct in that we do not choose any of those things, but then we were sent here to see how we would react to challenges. If mortality is a test (and I believe it is) then being faced with a variety of variables regardless of circumstance does not negate agency or freewill. You are...
  16. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    That homosexuals have the capacity to procreate is not the point, because that is not the whole requirement. Children are entitled to a father and a mother and even more than that, there is the issue of eternal family as well eternal lives. You will not likely even know what that means, but it...
  17. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    <chuckles>
  18. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    Yes, of course. We made it up. It would never occur to you that God just might be being merciful or that this concept would make more sense. Oh well... what ever.
  19. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    <ether-ore just shakes his head>
  20. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    Within Christian theology, there are two points of view. The majority opinion is that if you don't make it to heaven, then you burn in hell forever. The LDS point of view is that if one does not repent, then they must pay the penalty for their own sins. After that payment is made however...
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