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  1. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    It's a start in reducing the number of people being killed by others. Having the death penalties perpetuates the idea that killing others can be justified. And when you have that idea, it becomes easier to justify other killings, and so that idea remains present in society. If you hold the...
  2. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    And killing people via death penalty even less so. It's a start, though
  3. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    My friend :) I am not fine with just a single one of your many many views, but I am more than fine with you ^_^ This is something many people feel strong about, from either aside of the fence, you and I included. Dialogue allows us to understand one another, and ourselves, more deeply. And...
  4. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    Oh, but they did. They took the right to control the lives of Jews. They took the right to destroy their lives. They took the rights of the Jewish people, and held onto them. They owned the right to do what they did. If you want to stop slavery, you stop enslaving people, and give them back...
  5. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    But it is that simple. To stop killing people, you simply stop killing people.
  6. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    People escape prison regardless of the death sentence being lawful. They do it in my country too. Having execution as an option doesn't change that.
  7. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    Killing people is unacceptable. If you ever hope to stop people killing people, you must do exactly that. Stop killing people.
  8. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    As a percentage, there aren't that many prison escapes, and many of those are the result of prison staff making mistakes, and simply being understaffed. Prison guards don't earn that much money, it's a high-risk job, and they have a high staff turnover rate. Those things would be relatively...
  9. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    Just because the authorities HAVE that right, does not mean it is the right thing to do. In the 1930s (to pick an over used example), German authorities had the right in Germany to displace and kill millions of Jews, and thousands of others they didn't like or didn't want to deal with. NEVER...
  10. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    I'm simply not understanding why executing someone is absolutely necessary. To me, it just makes no sense to continue the very thing you're trying to avoid, which at the end of the day, is killing more people. It achieves so little that cannot be achieved in other ways. It does even less to...
  11. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    I.e. shift your responsibility aside, onto someone else.
  12. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    if you imprison someone for life, does that not also prevent them from killing another innocent person? Au contriare - most murderers know their victims Oh, but killing animals for meat is actually entirely unnecessary for survival. Though, that's kind of side tracking now ... I've long...
  13. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    Whatever motivations there are, you're just as dead either way, and that is my point. It's not ok to kill someone, whichever reasons you have for doing so, especially if there are other options available. (self-defence aside)
  14. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    Also, you didn't answer the question earlier concerning your family member being the murderer
  15. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    Come on, just play the game. Stop putting the responsibility of your beliefs aside. Your beliefs are represented in government and in law, and have very real consequences. The hypothetical situation I proposed is simply to emphasise this. Normally, no, you're not the one committing the act. But...
  16. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    Does an executioner kill in hot blood? I have before killed and slaughtered my own meat. It's not something I'm uncomfortable with. I feel it really connects me to the animal t turned into steak, and makes it very real. I'm much more appreciative of the life given up for me How many...
  17. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    For you to hold the belief that a murderer should be put to death, then you must hold responsibility for that belief. Just like I must hold responsibility for the belief that execution is never okay. It is your belief, and those of so many others that gives your authorities the power to...
  18. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    So between yourself, @Smart Guy, and I, if a man in a chair was condemned to death, he would still be alive. Yet you would still believe he should die, no? How would we get out of that pickle? Do we let him go? Surely not, he might murder someone else. Do we keep him in the chair until he dies...
  19. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    You would fight fire with fire? You would counteract violence with violence?
  20. methylatedghosts

    another botched execution.

    contradictory beliefs in this thread: 1) people should not kill others 2) people who kill others should be killed by other people who don't. 3) executioners are not included in the group "people who kill others"
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