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  1. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Its JUST their business only if your a shallow and indifferent thinker concerning its potential public effects. Consenting adults private business is only THEIR private business until it is not. The fact that private business can and often does become a public concern, eventually, requires...
  2. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Good. The term homophobe has been politicized to death, misapplied, and manipulated to serve the agendas of those crusaders who think their championing the "gay cause". Whatever that might mean to them. Should you take the time to read some of what I've said, if so inclined, you'll see the term...
  3. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Um...Dude? Are you aware of the context in which my post was made and the point it was meant to convey? If so I'm not sure what you mean by "this mentality" or how your information about volunteering is relevant? You'll have to clarify. Please.;)
  4. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    That is incorrect. One can certainly have a reasoned discussion about whether or not that contempt is reasonable. The U.S. was founded on contempt. The Declaration of independence was the reasonable defense of that contempt. I can certainly have reasonable contempt for bad behavior in my child...
  5. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    No, no, and no. A man doesn't have to be a homosexual to love another man. Although homosexuals can and do marry, being married has nothing to do with homosexuality. You are a homosexual whether your married or not if you are a homosexual. Being a homosexual may determine who you wish to be...
  6. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    One might argue and some have argued that life IS about sex. That it is about the propagation of ones genes into the next generation. Or failing that, the happy pursuit of hedonistic desires. To those people little else matters. Those that are seemingly indifferent to a desire to produce...
  7. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    One thing I find attractive about online forums such as these is that one can be, and is even encouraged to a degree, to be brutally honest in the interest of the pursuit of true knowledge and wisdom without the derailing fear of unwarranted violence or destructive harassment . Of course the...
  8. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Gosh I wish I could get back to you sooner but I have so many interests including the necessities of survival that time is a premium occasionally. Upset? Absolutely not. I'd rather everything were out in the open, not hidden in a closet. How else are we to address our differences if they sit...
  9. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Follow with me...you obviously believe I am not a victim and I have overtly said I am not a victim so who am I invoking victimhood for? I've argued the label point. You've not given counterpoints. So...whatever you think will satisfy your need to be right you go for it. As far as the...
  10. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Agreed. However, each of these are minorities for different reasons. LGBT people are minorities because of their sexuality. African Americans are minorities because of their race. The handicapped are minority-thank God- because of their physical or mental impairment. Muslims are minority because...
  11. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    As do I. Their sexuality is on your mind more so because being labeled a homosexual or a heterosexual or what have you is a condition not a person. Homosexuality is a sexuality not a human being but a condition embodied by that human being. One cannot help but be a human being if one is a human...
  12. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    First of all, I appreciate your well thought out questions and answers. Patience is somewhat of a virtue and you seem to know when to exercise it. Unfortunately my impatience confounds my desire to appropriately express my ideas more often than not. Why can't people just see...you know? But I...
  13. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    So you’re saying homosexuals are all bigoted? I don't think so. According to you. But you've yet to show that I am bigoted against homosexual people like you are against those that practice bestiality. And how is it meaningful to say that one is bigoted against particular practices they don't...
  14. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    I think your tweaking the definition to fit your needs somewhat. Here's why I think that... What is a racist or racism? Some various definitions... (Oxford Languages) :characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their...
  15. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Do you not understand that homosexuality is not a race of people? It’s a category of sexuality. Why do you keep going back to African Americans and being racist? African American is not a sexual categorization. Apples to oranges as the saying goes. Where in the world does this painting myself...
  16. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    I don't think they should. I think they should attempt to reason it out with those that disagree to see if it’s actually intentionally and or unreasonably hateful. A few things to note...not all disagreeable rhetoric is bad and not all dissent is a hateful attack. In reference to what you've...
  17. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    According to your statement those racists are equating what all black people do with them being black. There's multiple fallacies in that kind of thinking or at least a lot of opinion based upon a lot of ignorance. For instance it is demonstrably true that not all black people behave or do the...
  18. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    ;) Now you’re getting there. Just replace "sexually abuse animals" with "have dissent against homosexual practices" and LGBT with "ditto" and you’re coming closer to understanding what I've been saying. The only things using the homophobic slur against every dissenter does is widen the...
  19. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Its a prescriptive term that is unreasonably pushed as derogatory when indiscriminately applied to all who appose homosexual practices. And what I'm saying is that IS unreasonable. If disapproving of homosexuality is homophobia then disapproval of anything is a phobia. That is unreasonable. It...
  20. setarcos

    pope made homophobic slur

    Not unreasonably, and this is a fine example of rendering homophobia a tool of oppression - the very thing most people seem to wish to prevent. By calling me homophobic I'm supposed to be ashamed of my own convictions because its being pushed as a derogatory statement about a group of people...
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