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  1. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I'd like to sincerely thank you for providing an excellent example of how to have a civil disagreement here at RF.
  2. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    Based on what I've read about this teacher, I don't see it rising to the level of "establishing religion". I have no reason to believe that coach kneeling on the 50 yard line gives the school a standard religion. And I don't believe for one second that this sort of thing would be ignored. Even...
  3. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    If nobody reported being treated unfairly, why assume that it's happening? Just because it COULD happen doesn't mean it DID happen. I would expect these things to be handled on a case by case basis. If a coach wants to pray, fine. If students want to join, fine. If students who don't join...
  4. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    So fire the staff that discriminates against their students. But if I'm on the team, and the coach takes a knee at the 50 yard line after the game, and I'm perfectly free to hit the showers and head home... then I don't care if the coach is Christian, Muslim, Satanist, or Jedi... it matters not...
  5. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    Is there evidence that this particular coach did this sort of thing?
  6. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I am not a Christian, and I do not want school prayer back. I am not convinced that what this coach has done rises to that level. Doesn't illustrate the point as well as you'd hope... I don't want Christians leading public schools in prayer. I don't even want Jews leading public schools in...
  7. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I will continue to respectfully disagree with you on both of those points. Move on. Fine... I'll grant you the false piety thing
  8. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I'm not sold that what this coach is doing amounts to establishing religion. Cars commonly break the speed limit. But that doesn't mean we pull over cars that aren't speeding just because they might. Neither of those circumstances matter if there is no evidence that students were pressured to...
  9. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I disagree. I believe the error is yours. No.
  10. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I mean, if the game is over and literally all that is left to do is go home... i feel like just going home is a perfectly viable option. Unless there's evidence that this coach was treating non participants differently.
  11. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I wasn't rude. Direct, maybe? "What makes you say so".... a call for elaboration. A wish that you supply evidence for your supposition. Didn't figure there would be anything wrong with that.
  12. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    Does it really though? if the athletes on the field are free to simply walk away, is it institutionalized? I would need evidence of this happening. The mere possibility is not enough. My car can exceed 120 mph. Doesn't mean I should get a ticket while driving the speed limit because of...
  13. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    No need to condescend. I asked you to defend your position. If you're unable to do so, just say so. If you're unwilling to do so, say nothing. You chose to be unpleasant. Good luck with that.
  14. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    Your question has no bearing on my position. The answer is no. But if a Satanist wanted to kneel on the 50 yard line after the game and hail satan, as long as nobody was being forced to participate, then by all means, let him.
  15. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    If he's not keeping anybody from leaving, and he's not punishing students who don't join him, i don't care how visible he is.
  16. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    Proselytize? No. Offer his own prayer? Yes. The question is, if someone didn't join him, did that someone suffer consequences as a result? In high school I was in theater. One year I was asked to help out a private catholic school with their production of Fiddler On the Roof. Before the...
  17. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    Whatever his intentions may have been, the most important detail is whether or not students had the right to walk away/decline to participate. Did the other thread address that?
  18. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    I'm not sure you know the man well enough to judge the nature of his piety. Of course, you say? What makes you say so?
  19. Poisonshady313

    Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

    Is there any evidence whatsoever that this coach A. Expected any student to join him in prayer ? B. Singled out any student who did not join him? Should the court rule on what someone is "perfectly capable" of doing? Should a cop pull over a driver for doing nothing wrong, and ticket said...
  20. Poisonshady313

    Psalm 110: The most quoted psalm in the NT.

    If I may attempt to translate... Post 109 wasn't intended to come across as contrary or incredulous. It was an expression of genuine confusion.
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