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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    No need to repeat again the general outline of your thought experiment. I know what this is . I maintain there is no logic in it. It's like you telling me "hey the granma is in the closet: let me show you. 1. drawer 1 2. drawer 2. .. ... .. .. 7. drawer 7. You see? if there is something wrong...
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    that's a myth. This is the Wikipedia article listing all the people excommunicated by the CC: List of people excommunicated by the Catholic Church - Wikipedia we find: Napoleon was excommunicated June 10, 1809 by Pope Pius VII for ordering the annexation of Rome and a long period of...
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    I ignored nothing of your post The shrinking leads to the fastest possible process, as you said yourself. However, and I said this before aldready... this leads to only one process being possible (the fastest one). If there is only one process possible, there is only one free will input...
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    All of this is what Roman Catholic Church officials could have said in cases of excommunicating other people. They could have said the same excact words such as the ones I read in your post... instead of excommunicating other people. Such as people who ordained the wrong priests. Ordaining the...
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    yes, I mentioned it here Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian? citing the church historian Hubert Wolf (Münster) in the first article. Also consider the other two sources that are indicated in linked post. Don't just sweep them aside. No the first source is not irrelevant. No...
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    I understood everything, be sure. I showed the circularity of your argument various times already. It's all a merry go round now! oh that's wrong! you came up with the odea of shrinking the whole process down to the fastest possible process this was said in addition to your sentence here...
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    as I said there is no argument, just mere declaration. That's exactly the same of what I said in # 97. It's time to get off this merry go round, please. you made the assertion that it does not exist, the onus is on you to prove it. the moment I say that there can be changes in the process...
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    The official reality was he was a Catholic. yeah. The Catholic Church did nothing to adapt it to what you call "reality". In other cases they do excommunicate. In these other cases, they could easily say "oh in reality they just left" ... leaving the official reality untouched. However, whenever...
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    nothing of this refutes my claim that he never left the church. Nothing I wrote was false, Metis. He stayed a memeber of your church right till the end of his earthly existence. As my source explains, see #216. edited for clarity
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    I debunked that myth of the purported excommunication of the Nazi leadership here: Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian? I could cite real historians that refute your claim. Hitler was baptized into the Catholic Church. Have a look at how your church understands the Catholic...
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    I meant excommunication. This never happened. The CC rather excommunicates for what they consider wrong teaching. --------------- Actually he never left your church. Here is a source in German: Hitlers Verhältnis zu den Kirchen - Christsein wie ein Chamäleon (it's a state run page). It says...
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    no. You are the one making the bold assertions. You are the one who the onus is on. I stay with my opinion: In your example you assume the process has to be fastest. "Yes - [You can shrink the process and its inputs and outputs down to every tiny change of mind] right down to the point at which...
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    here you are outlining your four princilpes of your examples - in generic terms. Again. As you've done so often, already! But you said already where exactly it is you located the free will. It is in the process. However, when you get more specific about it.... this is exactly where it gets...
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    My answer to the green one: yes: that reason could be free will involved in the process.... but now the bolded part is exactly where it gets circular. Since you the reasons can only be 1) the state of mind or 2) the environment.... you don't allow for free will interaction to happen. So, the...
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    ok, if you put it that way, it isn't circular. (It was though, if you have the process finished before Input A). However, as I said in post #73, the process could bring the change. At least you couldn't rule that out. So, we need to consider Output C1: New state of mind 1, if it was process 1...
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    Question to Catholics: Is Adolf Hitler a Christian?

    Hitler placed himself within the Roman Catholic church and was never thrown out. You call your church "body of Christ", that's your opinion. I disagree, but I won't discuss that with you again.
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    God wants us to love darkness and evil!

    I understood everything. It was your wording that said "You can shrink the process and its inputs and outputs down to every tiny change of mind" (#74). Again, the process is where you put the free will in. So it depends on the process in your example. If this is fix, the free will will be also...
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    Abortion can save many souls.

    yes of course. I mean the hospitals and pharmacies that sell abortions under best circumstances are decriminalized. The difference legal/ decriminalized abortion in developped countries, as I see it, sometimes boils down to mandatory waiting periods and mandatory counselling hours. It's more...
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    Abortion can save many souls.

    no, in Germany it's decrimininalzed and you can't offer back street abortions. Providing unsafe services in criminalized.
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    Abortion can save many souls.

    since you mention legal abortion.... I'm against legal abortion. I think abortion should be decriminalized to save women's lives who would die from unsafe abortion. If women don't die from unsafe abortion, criminalized abortion often means abortion tourism if the woman can afford the trip. But...
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