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    Yes, there were more children killed in school shootings this year than on-duty police.

    Let's normalize that against other countries. Not the blacks and whites part, but the cops and kids part... Population of cops/kids versus murdered rate of cops/kids versus countries. Let's see how that goes.
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    There are many hypothesis being stated or assume in your comment. Could you simplify it into one hypothesis, since you only provided one chart, and some examples of gun control laws? Let's just start with one hypothesis and we can continue.
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    We know what your rights are. But maybe your right shouldn't hinge on what is needed to provide a safe gun culture. Maybe, the second amendment has been interpreted wrong or is antiquated. And it needs to be updated for modern times to reflect modern "arms." The arms being represented has...
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    I'm not promoting prohibition of guns. I'm promoting gun control and the better enforcement of it. Some people do not have the right to own guns because they represent a larger danger to society compared to the benefits of what the second amendment has been interpreted for. Some people here...
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    I'm no gun expert, but here is my list and why: 1) Training. Military countries that train all its citizens particularly with guns have shown less accidental gun deaths. 2) Ability to safely and securely store the guns. Criminals get their guns illegally but from legal guns, most of the time...
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    Oh. I want to add, that it is not the object, but the gun culture available in the US. It is the ease of access both legally, financially and lack of qualifications to own a gun in the US. It is the not gun that is the issue.
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    Blame both. Is that too hard to even consider?
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    Oh it's a problem, but not a problem in isolation. It's a bigger problem when factored with guns. You don't think other nations have mental health issues? Some how, other nations that have curbed there gun violence with gun control has less mental health issues than US? Of all the factors...
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    I updated with a second link. Thanks
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    I updated with a second link...
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    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real

    Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real Second link: Busting gun-culture myths that always surface after mass shootings; let’s get real Interesting article from an author who claimed to have been "a gun enthusiast for more than 40 years." Does any...
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    Fine, but I wouldn't say everyone agrees with your perspective on what constitutes as gun facts. So, since you are really trying very hard to moderate your own thread, then I will simply leave.
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    Again, in your perspective...
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    But you're not quoting my entire post. I do want to see the difference in how destructive each gun is. So if modifications increase the fire rate or accuracy, hence, increase the kill or destructive rate of guns, then sure. I don't care to get into the technicality of some definitions that do...
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    That's from your perspective and I'm ok with that. But I added to a topic with a context that I only care about, and that is gun violence. Seriously, there are many like me that don't care about guns but have to discuss the topic given that we live in the US. I wouldn't give a rat's *ss about...
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    That's a speculation, which I think has plausibility. Unless you provide further data to suggest it as fact. Personally, I'm fine with restrictions with the effort of reducing the number of "illegal" guns. Enforcement of gun control is the issue, not necessarily the laws itself. I know very...
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    if you don't care to discuss gun violence then put a big disclaimer in your title or OP, to not discuss gun violence. For example, this thread is to only discuss all facts about guns except gun violence. There, you've solved your issue with me and others.
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    Ok... I only care about facts that are relevant to gun violence. If it's relevant to gun violence and I didn't acknowledge it, then I'm wrong. What about your facts pertain to gun violence? Or does gun violence play any role in this thread? If not, then I can just simply exit.
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    I never said that I don't care about facts. If you feel unpleasant then that's you and how you control your emotions. I do care about facts, but I said I only care in the context of gun violence. Oh boy, no wonder you're in a tussle. You haven't been reading my statements and assumed some...
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    The Problem Of Bad Facts About Guns

    What is your hypothesis and what are you trying to conclude with that? Yes, obviously not all countries started with the same amount of guns, but what does that actually imply? You are asking me to read between the lines but I can't do that because I honestly do not know what the implication...
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