I did qualify my comment by saying at least traditional Hinduism. Coomaraswamy was traditionalist, not only did he maintain that caste was a good thing but he would not of approved of any new sects that were not traditionalist or at least not formed around traditional Hindu metaphysics and...
Theistic metaphysics holds that there would then be two "beings" or things with existence, "God" and the "law of identity". So that there would be a common reality between them and in actual fact it would be this reality which is the absolute. On one level there is no difference between this...
Well I don't think you originally completely understood the nuances of the different perspectives on theism but I do agree your argument, even if it is a bit too rationalist(in the negative sense of overusing reason and ignoring its limits and proper place.) for my tastes, is a good one against...
Okay now I do sort of see you have an argument. It is not against theism per se but against a particular view of theism that absolutely separates God's creation from God. You are correct that such a view would be flawed because there would be something outside God and the Universe which...
The problem is I feel just the reverse. I feel that I have utterly debunked your argument and that you've therefore changed tacts and moved onto to a different argument. Your argument does not show that God, or the One or the Tao is necessarily contingent or conditioned or caused by something...
Surely you can see some of the reasons for that dislike in what I just posted. Modern "philosophy" relies on reason almost completely or, because rationalism is ultimately self-destructive, it has to resort to infra-rational processes. Whereas ancient, or probably better called traditional...
The first two and last one are members of the Traditionalist/Perennialist movement and propound the Perennial Philosophy. Henry Corbin is a fellow traveler and quite similar but not exactly so, his thesis is more limited and moderate. Schuon explains their perspective here...
I don't think my question was technically contrary to these rules. My question was meant to suggest that as a Jew did he not see anything spiritual or redeeming, obviously from his own Jewish perspective, in Christianity. But I hadn't actually read the rules.
It is important to remember that if one says God is everything then in a sense one has an intellectual dualism when looking at contingent objects. On the one hand they are caused by God and contingent but they're still God and therefore absolute. This is again stretching reason to its limits...
In essence it is an immediate, direct knowledge which more is like sight than reason, whereby there is a union between knowing and being and in a sense one partakes in consciousness itself. Meister Eckhart put it this way:
"The eye with which I see God is the same with which God sees me. My...
This is a reply to the OP, I have not read all the thread and I apologise if I missed something like you already choosing a faith.
Zoogirl are you familiar with several interesting modern spiritual thinkers; Frithjof Schuon, Rene Guenon, Henry Corbin and Dr. Seyyed Nasr? They are...
I only objected to your utter rejection of Christianity as being capable of anything positive particularly spiritually and only from a perspective of one person interested in spirituality to someone who I hoped was also interested in spirituality. I don't think it was an unfair interpretation of...
That comment was aimed at Meow Mix. Aristotle was a descent from Plato certainly, Plato "saw" the Universals whereas Aristotle had to deduce them. It has been said Plato looked towards heaven and Aristotle looked towards earth. But Aristotle was a part of the classical wisdom tradition, the...
I do think your deficiency though is a common modern one, due to common modern ways of thinking, so I thought I'd suggest you look at other ways of thinking.
But I think our perspectives are too different, you are obviously an able expounder of the modern "philosophical" perspective whereas...
I'm guessing we can add Aristotle to those authors you are unfamiliar with.
What does contingency mean? It means that something is reliant on something else, what does this mean it means that it is partly caused by this other thing. If my happiness is contingent on my income then it is caused...
I'm not so sure.
But what makes identity separate from anything else? Your argument simply replaces God with the so called law of identity. It doesn't explain that law or how it exists or how it interacts with existence. You have a very naturalistic idea of a law and are simply using some neat...
But what is contingent must be caused by what is necessary or it would be necessary. What doesn't exist in its own right exists because it is caused by something else.
But it is contingent because it is caused by something outside itself.
Your argument examines the theistic premise that he is...
But many disagreements are due to a lack of understanding. No offense but I'd be very surprised if you had read Origen or the Cappadocian fathers or St.Augustine or Meister Eckhart or even Plotinus.
I'm not suggesting Pantheism in the way moderns usually understand that term. I'm not suggesting...
You said he couldn't understand the spirituality of Christianity when he is being slaughtered. He isn't being slaughtered, so you have no argument. Your just making the usual sort of childish comments that atheists have taken to making under such that Dean of idiocy, Richard Dawkins(though they...