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  1. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    That's a fair statement.
  2. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    Bear in mind that we could also have called ourselves the Church of God and it would still be Biblical. 1 Corinthians 1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus...
  3. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    Good point.
  4. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    That and this isn't Bible teaching. This is the belief systems "own" teaching. This isn't written anywhere in the Bible. They make up a series of beliefs that belong only to them, independent of scripture. They have a disturbingly large number of these "made up" teachings. Not rrobs...
  5. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    Have you not read? Acts 10:47-48 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?" [48] And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days. The jews were in...
  6. e.r.m.

    Paul Saved on the road?

    Islam did not exist until the 7th century, so Paul wasn't Islamic, unless he was a time traveller. What do you mean by already contemporaneously saved?
  7. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    You're welcome. I'm glad that was clearer. Yes, you have said that, but when I said It is "only" the by grace alone through faith alone paradigm, completely by itself, and without any scriptural authority, that says that baptism is not involved in being saved. you knew the topic of discussion...
  8. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    I don't know how you can not be sure what I said that you switched, as I listed it in such detail. I will summarize. I started out by saying the by grace alone, through faith paradigm completely by itself and without any scriptural authority, said that baptism is not involved in getting saved...
  9. e.r.m.

    What is this healing that did not go so well that you were talking about with rrobs? How are you...

    What is this healing that did not go so well that you were talking about with rrobs? How are you doing?
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  10. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    Lol, you would have to have had me when you were 20. I'll get back to you on this.
  11. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    I said It is "only" the by grace alone through faith alone paradigm, completely by itself, and without any scriptural authority, that says that baptism is not involved in being saved. You said It is "only" the by grace alone through faith alone paradigm, completely by itself, and without any...
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    Supersessionism and beyond - Can Christianity meaningfully address religious pluralism?

    Correct, when the Roman empire forced the church and their pagan religion together, along with Rome's military might. As an entity, it was no longer the church, although I'm sure there were still followers of Jesus who survived this merger and did not partake in the carnage of the Jews that...
  13. e.r.m.

    Supersessionism and beyond - Can Christianity meaningfully address religious pluralism?

    Not in the days during which the Bible was written.
  14. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    First I see no refutation that baptism being a work is not a scriptural teaching. Acts 10:47-48 (as has already been stated) establishes that baptism in Jesus's name is in water. Matthew 16:16 is a parallel to Matthew 28:19. Matthew 16:16 and Acts 2:38-39 therefore are in water. Romans 6:5...
  15. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    That is the specific "work" that I don't see the scriptures requiring to be saved ...I like talking about anything in the scriptures. This is the "by grace alone, through faith alone" paradigm teaching, and not "scriptures". "Scripture" never refers to baptism a work. "Scripture" never refers...
  16. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    Luke 3:8-14 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. [9] The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good...
  17. e.r.m.

    Is God using Covid 19 to get our attention ?

    No.
  18. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    Romans 10:9-10 does not mention works or grace. 2 Tim 1:9 does. That is certainly one of the doctrines that must be obeyed.
  19. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    Well great, we agree on something. That's at least part of it.
  20. e.r.m.

    Jesus Said "It Is Finished"

    I do. The NT never says anything to prohibit or exclude "doing" something, as a part of getting saved. It only prohibits works. So "doing" something is perfectly in line with God's word.
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