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  1. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    No. He appears to be asserting that there is no water ... only whirling. Examine what he's said about experience. He's repeatedly insisted that there is no experiencer. Doesn't that amount to insisting that there is no water? And I beg to differ. He's asserted (over and over again) that...
  2. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    And all I'm saying is that you cannot have the whirl without the pool. And you cannot have thoughts without a thinker. You cannot have the rain without the rainstorm. You're the one who's making the weird claims here. Allow me to invite you to show me a whirlpool that features no...
  3. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    No. I'm not. I'm merely looking at the etymologies of the word "mystic" itself. No need to muddy the waters further. Reasoning takes me quite a ways up into the night sky, and at some point awe takes over. But I'd never characterize awe as "mystical." You're speaking for yourself here...
  4. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    You've asserted that, but you've failed to demonstrate it. You're asserting that as well, but you've also failed to demonstrate it. Please demonstrate that a picture of a whirlpool does not show a whirlpool. Thanks. And when water does these things, we use these words to describe them...
  5. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    No. You c'mon. Please demonstrate that it's possible for a thinking being to not exist. In the meantime, let's remind ourselves that even if we discard Descartes altogether, we're still not one iota closer to proving that anything mystical actually exists.
  6. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    Thank you. So belief is not an experience, but believing is? So after the semantic tap-dancing has subsided, I fail to see how we're any further way from disproving the notion that belief is an experience. At best, haven't we merely arrived at the conclusion that believing is an experience...
  7. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    None beyond what is already self-evident. The universality of salinity? Rather than just emptily asserting it, please demonstrate that salinity is universal. OK. Can you see it? It's called a storm cloud. OK. See it? It's the pool that is whirling. If it weren't whirling...
  8. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    Why don't we set mere physical substantiation aside for the moment and grope about wildly for any sort of substantiation? What can the mongers of mysticism offer aside from allegations and subjective testimony? A statement like that is already awash in flim-flammery. Isn't it rather...
  9. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    If mystical experiences can be explained, are they still mystical?
  10. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    Exactly what is it then? Be sure to frame your response to the previous question in strictly concrete terms and do not resort to abstractions. Thanks. Darn tootin! Yet you've agreed that belief is itself an experience, correct? Oh please. You're now insisting that there are three sorts...
  11. NulliuSINverba

    " Couples who choose not to have children are selfish, says 78-year-old virgin"

    As a godless heathen, it isn't really my concern. By all means, refer this issue to a Christian. Shhhhhhhh! You're spoiling the beatified ambiance!
  12. NulliuSINverba

    Why Did Humans Invent the Gods?

    Disobedient children needed to be scared into toeing the line. That's my guess. Also, people got tired of being asked so many questions and invented god(s) to serve as a rubberstamp answer that required no evidence and (ideally) brooked no challenge. "Now shut up and do as you're told!"
  13. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    But you wouldn't deny that belief itself can be (and in fact must be) experienced ... that the act of believing must be experienced to be meaningful? So empty claims regarding allegedly spooky stuff will always be just claims, correct? Because the very minute that any of these claims were...
  14. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    So you're saying that belief cannot be experienced? That belief isn't experienced? The assertion that anything "mystical" exists is unsubstantiated.
  15. NulliuSINverba

    " Couples who choose not to have children are selfish, says 78-year-old virgin"

    Seriously? "This is another reason, with which the apostle supports his advice to virgins, and unmarried persons, to remain so; since the time of life is so very short, and it is even but a little while to the end of the world, and second coming of Christ; and therefore seeing the marriage...
  16. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    Unsubstantiated twaddle. Unfortunately, that "deepity" is demonstrably untrue. Salinity levels in seawater vary. Sorry. Again, a demonstrably false assertion. See: "Storm." Example: Q. - What is it that is raining? A. - It is a storm that is raining. See? Easy peasy...
  17. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    And who'd believe their own experiences, right?
  18. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    It's interesting to note that many etymologies (here, here, and here for starters) indicate that the English "mystic" is derived from Greek "mystos" which is defined as "to keep silent" or "to close the eye" (from the Greek "myein"). In light of that, it seems to me that "mystic" comes out of...
  19. NulliuSINverba

    Ten Commandments

    Who are these "many people" exactly? Could you please cite a few? Sure it does. How else do you think the Israelites took possession of The Promised Land? It was a bloodbath. But since it was a divinely ordained bloodbath, it was morally acceptable. See how Judeo-Christian "Morality"...
  20. NulliuSINverba

    Do you believe in the mystical?

    No.
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