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    Jesus: God or not? (Christians only)

    Ah.. you use this reference, but you are looking at it as since he was peirced with the spear, that this must be proof. Well what if he wasn't pierced by the spear would you then think that he was in fact the Son of God? And if you would still believe that he is even if he didn't get 'pierced'...
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    God vs Satan

    Well in that case the difference between them, is the shere fact that Satan was the angel in G-D's court that tempeted G-Ds followers because he was jealous of mans freewill. So he tried to prove to G-D, with his permission, to tempt his followers. Now keeping in mind I'm using the Satan...
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    God vs Satan

    The question at hand is God vs. Satan, correct? Thus my previous statement instates the arguement that there is no 'battle' between them. Satan is merely an power stripped fallen angel, and therefore no longer has powers, and there for is not against G-D except for his anger toward him. I...
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    Why I think a lot of the Bible is False

    Biased: Yes only the OT is true and the NT is false. Unbiased. Yes and no. Some of the NT may be true, but not all of it. Some of it could be fabricated, some could actually ahve been. It is hard to say.
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    LDS and other churchs

    Actually, there are churches that do "sell" salvation. A perfect example would be the Iglesia Ni Cristo, which require you to offer not only every Sunday, but also every "thanksgiving" (different form of thanksgiving then we think of in America.) Many churches actually require you to "offer" a...
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    Catholic Doctrine

    Well what I'm looking for is why they believe that these things are not. I mean this thread was to learn why people follow there faiths. Do they follow because they do not study and hope that their priests are telling the truth, or do they actually study and go by that?
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    Christians: Was the race of Adam and Noah, white?

    Now here is a question for you all. Was Jesus white?
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    Why I think a lot of the Bible is False

    Isaiah 2:1-5 1This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalemd: 2In the last days the mountian of the Lord's temple will be established as cheif among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. 3 Many peoples will come and say...
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    Christians: Was the race of Adam and Noah, white?

    absurd yes, but working it the other way is not so absurd, look at michael jackson.
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    God vs Satan

    To each there own belief, what I was trying to say though, was that in the Tenach it actually states that (in different words), when 'the accuser' was banished to the pit. He was stripped of his angelic powers, and was left there like all the rulers of the world. The idea of the pit (hell) in...
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    I think you missed the point. The seed is a concept, not a actual seed. The answer is in the last sentence. Well the Israelite didn't keep commandments and Jesus' purpose was to save Jews and Gentiles. He said that he didn't come here to bring peace, but division because He knew that...
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    And this is how the Holocaust came about.:no:
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    Yes even though he may be described as a serpent in the NT, he is actually described as an angel, one of of G-Ds servants throught the Tenach till he was banished to the pit. When he was stripped of all his powers and treated as just any other person thrown into the pit.
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    This is where many christians are misled by the thought of Satan. Christians teach that Satan during Adam and Eve. Ok I understand this, but why would Satan still continue to answer to G-D until he was cast out of Heaven a thousand or so years later. It is actually the "Gen. 3:1...the serpent...
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    Galations 3 doesn't say anything about him being of the seed of David. It talks about Paul the Preacher to the Gentiles. The Gentiles did not have to follow Jewish Law according to the Apostles. I ask you now, Why would God create commandments that he would later change? When he said Ex. 19:5...
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    I'm not saying that he didn't make a turn for the better, and I'm not saying that it is bad to study the bible to get through hard times, but the more and more I did, it did not make sence to me why so many people claim Jesus as the Messiah and keep the Trinity Doctrine. When it plainly...
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    Well my biggest concern about this list you sent me is that 'The seed of David' how can you heritcly be the ancestor of David IF YOU WERE BORN OF A VIRGIN who was in fact not of David blood line? That is probably the biggest prophecy that will be fulfilled.
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    Jesus the Messiah?

    Michael L. Brown. Wow, you are quoting books about a former Jewish who 'Found the Lord' at 16, while he was shooting up heroin, and using LSD. :confused::thud: Have you ever been to a rehab facility? I mean being on the other side of it actually going through rehab? From first hand, not as a...
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    Catholic Doctrine

    What I ment as well with the Crucifixis and the Statue of Mary, the Pain glass of the Saints. Are not all these Graven images to Catholics?
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    Catholic Doctrine

    OT onyl- The reason I say this is because not enough people will argue a point about there religion from the Tenach. I've heard many reasons regarding the New Testaments, I want to know where the authority comes from, from the Laws of Moses, and why mass is on Sunday and not Shabbat? Now as...
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