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  1. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    That's exactly what I'm trying to understand!!! We aren't puppets but if god knows everything there isn't a point for him to have created us. Its the hardest thing I have ever tried to do. Really, truly looking at this paradox with an open mind is crazy. Everyone agrees god is all knowing but...
  2. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    So then god created us for company? or to observe a "unique spirit"?
  3. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    I do not think God put us here to proove our love to God I think it is in order to change our minds from unbelief to belief. sunshineydays The entire Bible is about how we can love and honor god. Without a doubt the only reason we are on earth is to love god. It makes zero sense...
  4. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    But various scriptures also explicitly assert that god knows the end of everything. You can't just say simple as that. This is a paradox that should be investigated.
  5. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    You kind of wandered off topic here. Its not about an evil force clouding minds to not see the truth. Nor whether or not God can truthfully say anything. It's about the paradox that if God knows everything why would he put us on earth to prove our love to him? he already knows.
  6. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    So in other words, God isn't all knowing and under duress (meaning you used the terms normal and extreme circumstances that means things sometimes are easy for God and others are tough) God can make a mistake. Psalm 139, just one of many scriptures that says before a word was on my tongue you...
  7. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    Absolutely
  8. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    So then there are scriptures that say god knows everything and other that say he doesn't. And If I did believe in God, I wouldn't drive through red lights because gods time for me to die might be the day I decide to drive through a red light. But this notion of god not knowing anything, think...
  9. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    You write wonderful poems.
  10. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    OK, but in the end god created us and ultimately decides if we get into heaven. So it doesn't make sense if the test is for us since he already knows everything and we do not decide anything or sway his judgement in anyway. But could you please touch more on this notion that god did not...
  11. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    What do you mean?
  12. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    If that is true I Truly am sorry because I am wrong. Could you please give the book and numbers I can find this scripture? I just always thought that If a person believes that god doesn't know everything, that questions his divinity. But These are some scriptures I found. If what you said...
  13. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    Its not a debate about free will. But since you bring it up, according to Christians belief that god knows everything, we only have the illusion of free will. See, whether or not god chose our individual endings, or "makes" us do things. God still does know what happens in the end and...
  14. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    Yes, as a matter of fact, the way Christians believe only makes sense if god isn't all knowing. If god didn't know your next move, then our time on this earth would truly be a test. Because it would be necessary for our god to put us on this earth with so much temptation. He would want to see...
  15. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    EXACTLY! God never programmed any outcome of anything. God just knows the end of everything. So what does it matter what we choose? he already knows. so when you just said "give them the opportunity to make a choice and not force their hand" doesn't make sense. God cant give opportunity to...
  16. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    I understand what you're saying. I truly do enjoy these conversations and I hope you don't think I'm being malicious. But Christ was a teacher right? he came to PREPARE us and teach us how to enter the kingdom of heaven. Regardless who's benefits we are to take what Christ taught us, and apply...
  17. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    When you look at Christianity at its very base model, its a reward and punishment system.
  18. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    I didn't mean God forces anything. If I typed it wrong I apologize. I meant to say that according to god there was no other way for my life to go. not by force ,that's just what I did, and knew it from the beginning.
  19. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    According to Christians, life is a test to prove our love for God. It absolutely has to be. Otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever. If it wasn't a test why would he care if we love him? why wouldn't he show himself all the time and hangout with us? Then why is there a heaven and a hell? Why...
  20. Chadley

    Christians: please help me out with this

    That can't be true. If God already knows everything, life cannot be a test. Its a paradox. Ok, I'm an atheist, If I die right now, I go to Hell. But the thing is, God would have already known I would do that. God would have created me, knowing I wouldn't love him, not change my path, then...
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