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  1. Jaskaran Singh

    OK guys? What's going on?

    Yet you must concede that there's only so much an individual by himself can do to "police" others, especially if he himself is the subject of cyber-harassment. For example, I have recently pleaded three times with an individual (who I won't name) to stop derailing a thread, yet he consistently...
  2. Jaskaran Singh

    OK guys? What's going on?

    That's putting it nicely. It's usually more along the line of being labeled as caste extremist or such, like in the recent shUdra-veda discussion. The thread creator and I had agreed to take our discussion outside of the other thread, out of respect for not derailing the thread. However, certain...
  3. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    I don't revere prabhupAda, lol. I find some of his views to be innately sexist. However, I do agree with his criticism of the vedAnta society and other neo-Hindu societies regarding distributing meat prasAdam. Merely because an individual classifies himself as an AchArya don't make his views...
  4. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    Here: Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 7 Chapter 9 Verse 10 [/B][/I]
  5. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    It says that a shUdra could reach the STATUS of a brAhmaNa (which doesn't really mean much, as a shUdra devotee is already above a ritualistic brAhmaNa from the perspective of smR^iti). It does not, however, state that they could become a brAhmaNa. From my perspective, the manusmR^iti is quite...
  6. Jaskaran Singh

    OK guys? What's going on?

    I already stated this elsewhere (in the site feedback), but I personally feel that there should be rules explicitly prohibiting trolling, flaming, or incessantly insulting other members, either directly or indirectly. In addition, while threads may be derailed from time to time or may become...
  7. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    I don't consider myself to be higher or lower than anyone else, I consider myself to be a human, just like anyone else. This is the last time I will request you to stop derailing this thread with provocative posts. If you cannot remain on topic, then I will not respond to your statements.
  8. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    On one post you state that you meant that you were lower than all other castes, yet in the post immediately following it, you say you were being satirical? If you cannot be consistent in your statements, then its unproductive to converse with you. Clearly you're not taking this thread very...
  9. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    I'm afraid you didn't understand my post or perhaps I didn't convey it effectively. You created an explicit hierarchy of castes, I did not, and yet you accused me of being a caste supremacist. In addition, in this thread alone, both of you made multiple snide and/or offensive remarks and...
  10. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    Actions define an individual rather than words. For an individual who considers shUdra-s to be lesser than brAhmaNa-s (see here) to accuse an individual who consider shUdra-s more blessed than brAhmaNa-s (see here) of being a "caste-supremacist" is nothing short of hypocrisy, and is frankly...
  11. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    If he considers himself to be an adhikArI, then he can go ahead, but since he's not a dvija, it's not his svadharma (as per varNAshrama), nor is it even his inclination (he stated multiple times that he really isn't a fan of reading), which is what I am getting at. If you have any issues, please...
  12. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    :facepalm: Do you understand the meaning of "no one can stop you?"
  13. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    Technically yes, no one can stop you. However, it certainly wouldn't be very dhArmik of you to do so.
  14. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    Growing to exceed a brAhmaNa is not the same actually being a brAhmaNa by birth. Therefore, that verse does not go against a birth-based varNAshrama system; saying that someone can attain the same shreyastvaM as someone from another class is not the same as saying that he is from the other...
  15. Jaskaran Singh

    Sunyata/Sunnata and Asat.

    Well, I'd like to clarify that only later (during post-vedic times) did "asat" seem to connote a sense of impermanence. At first, it only referred to something which was false.
  16. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    Really, you think that because I'm Pakistani, I'm "not acquainted with Indian political culture"? Also, did you just ignore that huge quote about the Drafting Committee? Anyway, from the same speech (if you still don't believe me) Ambedkar: "The credit that is given to me does not really belong...
  17. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    praNAm, Uh, yes I did: Let's see that verse, shall we?: Source: https://archive.org/details/Shankara.Bhashya-Chandogya.Upanishad-Ganganath.Jha.1942.English The founder of the AryasamAj espoused the absurd view that the veda-s were monotheistic (lol), members of the rAmakR^iShNa mission has...
  18. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    Would you mind telling me what that was, because it certainly wasn't the Indian constitution. "The Honourable Dr. B. R. Ambedkar: Sir, looking back on the work of the Constituent Assembly it will now be two years, eleven months and seventeen days since it first met on the 9th of December 1946...
  19. Jaskaran Singh

    Can the Shudras study the Vedas....

    Apart from your mention of the story of satyakAma jAbAla (which could be interpreted in many ways, I may add), you haven't stated anything from shruti which could be viewed as going against birth-based varNa. That makes it kind of a baseless claim; the neo-Hindu part comes from the fact that...
  20. Jaskaran Singh

    Why Krishna is Blue

    Lol, I really need to learn to read each post carefully before rushing to clarify. I didn't even notice you said that before. :p Edit: Anyway, back on topic, I think that mAdhurI was giving the explanation as to why those devatA-s are often painted as blue.
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