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  1. Agricola aka Pam34

    Which is the Most Violent Religion Based on the Doctrine?

    Accused, often. Guilty - no. The Phoenicians definitely practiced child/infant sacrifice and infanticide. The Greeks and Romans routinely exposed their own children to die. One of the reasons the Greeks thought the Jews were 'uncivilized' was simply because the Jews DID NOT kill their children...
  2. Agricola aka Pam34

    Treatment of converted Christians

    A Conservative rabbi also will not officiate if both parties are not Jews. Reform rabbis will SOMETIMES - it depends on the rabbi.
  3. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    I've heard several possibilities about what it actually was - but in any case, apparently Moses told them it was something to be eaten.
  4. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    Neither did the Israelites! The word 'manna' in Hebrew means 'what is it'.
  5. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    Incidentally - back in the dark ages even - earlier than that, actually- Jewish scholars (religious authorities, really) determined that there were only a very limited number of actual miracles (total suspension of natural law) in the Tanakh. Plus they were quite conservative, and said the...
  6. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    I'm not. But YOU clearly have been, so I've courteously supplied you with two authorities to inform your opinion. I wasn't sure whether one was enough, or whether or not you had a bias for or against the Catholics, so I pulled up two. I'm sure there are more, if necessary. I'm a fan of Georgius...
  7. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    See, there's this thing called MOMENTUM and this thing called CENTRIFUGAL FORCE and this thing called GRAVITY and.... The actual point is, if you just say 'Goddidit' and 'miracle' you are explaining NOTHING and you are also not going to convince anybody without your particular belief system...
  8. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    You are confusing what you BELIEVE about God with what is portrayed by the text. God may or may not be omnipotent - God may or may not EXIST - but the text as interpreted can be used to support the belief that God is omnipotent, and it can also be used to support the belief that omnipotence is...
  9. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    umm - no. But whoever wrote those stories was ignorant. The Hebrew Bible is not like the NT or the Quran. The NT and Quran were both written over a very short period of time by relatively few people. The Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh, or the OT) was written over the course of at LEAST four hundred...
  10. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    A) God has to ask Adam where he is - Genesis 2. God also asks (you can argue that God already knew, but maybe not) what is going on. B) God has to use the forces of nature to create a path through the 'sea' (Exodus) (by the time you get to Deuteronomy, it is a whole lot more impressive as an...
  11. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    'Creation science' is non-science (and nonSENSE). It is possible for a scientist to believe in God, and to believe in a god who created everything - but such a scientist should recognize that his/her belief is just that - a BELIEF, and is not 'science' nor 'scientific', nor can that belief be...
  12. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    Actually - you can make a case - FROM 'SCRIPTURE' that the Abrahamic deity is neither omipotent nor omniscient, nor even 'the only god'. Really - it is all in the preconceptions derived from later interpretations. Genesis 1 does indicate that this God is extremely powerful - but not necessarily...
  13. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    God is Creator. But God is not 'the Creation'. We can and must separate what is 'creator' from what is 'created' - unless we are pantheists. I'm not a pantheist, but I can entertain the idea of panENtheism, which is rather different.
  14. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    I believe you are incorrect in your assumption, or at least a bit sideways. Science concerns itself with anything that can be falsified IN THE NATURAL WORLD using natural means. Science does not and cannot 'test' (falsify) matters of the immaterial, spiritual 'world'. Wrong tool. I should...
  15. Agricola aka Pam34

    science and religion

    By definition (God as spiritual entity, bodiless, outside space/time) it is not possible to test ('prove') whether or not such a deity exists using 'science' as a method. Science confines itself only and solely to the natural world of our space/time. 'Things' (or beings) outside that (wholly or...
  16. Agricola aka Pam34

    Another BeliefNet ex-pat

    I'm pretty sure I'm older than dirt. But in computer time....when I got my first one, the operating system was DOS 3.0, and there was a whole entire one megabyte of RAM, because I paid for the upgrade for extra memory. Floppy disks were still over 5 inches and the dot matrix printer was the...
  17. Agricola aka Pam34

    Why can’t Jesus be a Jew?

    Ok - Jesus was a Jew. Not a big issue really. Next - let's see - Judaism does not separate 'religion' from 'cultural background'. A Jew is a Jew and a Jew practices Judaism. Judaism is 'living like a Jew'. Your confusion is common enough, because the western world separates religion and culture...
  18. Agricola aka Pam34

    Was Adam Jewish?

    Just to clarify - ABRAHAM was a 'Hebrew'. Adam was just a human person. Not a Jew. Not a 'Hebrew'. Just a human (actually, 'he' is probably just a personification representing all mankind/humans, and not a real person in the first place, but for the sake of argument - Adam was a human person).
  19. Agricola aka Pam34

    Was Adam Jewish?

    'Judaism' (which is the name for the religious practice/worldview of the Jewish people) basically doesn't really get properly begun until Sinai. The people who were present there were a mixed multitude, which included, but was not restricted to, the lineal descendants of Abraham, who is...
  20. Agricola aka Pam34

    for jewish converts: why did you choose judaism over others?

    So, what I'm asking I guess is -- If you converted to Judaism, Why did you choose Judaism? What other religions did you consider? What did you do to rule those out? What made you decide against other religions? this is long, sorry. I was raised in the non-instrumental church of Christ - if...
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