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  1. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    Nothing to get over. I already told you I am not attached to whether or not you believe anything I say. Truth cuts its own path. Also, I reject the vast majority of what passes for Mormon Fundamentalism. Think of the FLDS as the dead body of Abel that keeps coming up from the ground because...
  2. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    I don't recall saying you are in cahoots with Satan. I did imply you are in cahoots with Lucifer, but those are different entities to me. Lucifer doesn't really realize he is just being used as a pawn by Satan. He truly and sincerely believes he is the "good guy" until he finds out he was...
  3. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    You summed it up so well: "I see no reason...." You are correct. You are blind to many things. You also revealed earlier why that is so. You admit yourself, you have utter disinterest in understanding. These two conditions go hand-in-hand. And, you call me the one whose sanity should be questioned?
  4. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    Oh, by the way, I'm the least bit anti-government. As I said, there are a variety of approaches to government. Some enslave the masses and others attempt to liberate the masses. What one views as enslavement and what one views as liberation is what's up for debate here.
  5. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    I'm quite objective about both sides of this divide. I'm interested in, and understand, both sides of it. By your own admission, you are only interested in pushing your personal preferences while being willfully ignorant of the other side's perspective. I appreciate the compliment that you...
  6. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    Of course you aren't, but you are interested in coaxing those who are in this covenant to contort it into something it was never intended to be. How about suggesting to Lucifer to stop being a wanna-be loser pretend God by usurping and taking that which never was, and never will be, his. He can...
  7. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    I think it's pretty clear your thinking and my thinking are worlds apart. Your understanding of the Bible is very different than mine is. If I had more time I'd make an effort to do some space travel, so to speak, but you don't sound like someone who is searching and I'm not the least bit...
  8. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    I went into more detail elsewhere, but the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, which all of the Torah based religions adhere to in one way or another, are associated with a particular manner of governance. Yahweh is a tribal deity with a patriarchal based governmental society. It's aim is to...
  9. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    You are entirely missing my point. Anciently, the Hebrew culture was tiny compared to the whole planet and its many varied cultures and ways of living. You seem to act as if homosexuality is some new revelation and that it has some kind of special sacredness about it thanks to modern...
  10. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    I'm simply addressing things in an objective manner. I'm certainly not going to alter my reading and understanding of God's Word because it might offend someone. I'm also not too keen on your attempt to make me feel guilty for saying things people choose to be offended by, when none was...
  11. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    Stupid? I guess that might hurt my feelings if I cared what your opinion of me was. The Bible has plenty to say about a lot of things, including what it deems appropriate sexual behavior for that covenant society. If you understand the parameters for that society, which I explained in an...
  12. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    Your interpretation isn't sensible. You seem to be saying that homosexual acts should not enter into religious ritual experience, but beyond that there is no law against it. If anything it is saying: "If even priests are forbidden these things, then so too is everyone forbidden." Just as...
  13. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    You have shared some interesting information, but you went off topic by attempting to re-define the question into something other than what was being asked.
  14. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    I wasn't implying that you or God should. I was pointing out the effects of the fact that God and you do not.
  15. MansFriend

    In your belief why God created us

    Life has a lot of suffering. It's just part of the cost of being clothed in a body of flesh. Why some are born under some circumstances and other are born into other circumstances is a major purpose of religious development. In Mormonism, the whole drive is to have yourself "sealed" to be...
  16. MansFriend

    In your belief why God created us

    I've come to understand the "creation" spoken of in the Bible is something other than physical creation of our cosmos. God's cosmos is purely religious and its raw materials are the human intelligences that exist here on this planet. I believe God is "self-organized" meaning that God is actually...
  17. MansFriend

    Another Interesting Curiosity of the Baha'i religion

    I reconcile it by understanding that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a tribal deity and that not every upright walking biped that can read and write is a part of that tribe. This God is only a God of those who are descendants of that God. And, at some point, God renews a covenant with...
  18. MansFriend

    God's opposition to homosexual behavior. Why?

    For many people, because of how they have been raised, they believe homosexual behavior is bad simply because God has said so. Unfortunately, God didn't actually take the time to give substantive justification for why this type of behavior is against His law. This leaves the door wide open for...
  19. MansFriend

    Poll for Creationists

    A literal interpretation of Genesis chapter 1 and 2 is a correct manner, because it explicitly tells you that the 7 days of creation and all of the things in it are a metaphor of something other than the physical cosmos. Just after the 7 days are described, Genesis 2:4 says "These are the...
  20. MansFriend

    Poll for Creationists

    You are missing a question option. You needed an option to say: No, I have no problem with the scientific Theory of Evolution, in the main. That which the God of the Bible creates isn't the physical cosmos, but is rather something else that is loosely patterned after the physical cosmos.
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