"48% of White Evangelicals Would Support Kavanaugh Even If He Assaulted Dr. Ford"

[Skwim]

"As we speak, conservative Christians are working to discredit the testimony of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and students from Liberty University are protesting in defense of Brett Kavanaugh.

We know why they’re hell-bent on getting Kavanaugh confirmed to the Supreme Court: He would be a certain fifth vote to overturn abortion rights at the federal level, and no amount of bad behavior in his past is going to shake their conviction that the allegations against him are all part of some giant left-wing conspiracy.

Now we can put some numbers behind how many Americans are looking the other way in spite of the evidence against Kavanaugh. According to a NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll taken last week, 48% of white evangelical Christians say that Kavanaugh should be confirmed to the Supreme Court even if the charge of sexual assault is true.

I repeat: Nearly half of white evangelicals want Kavanaugh on the Court even if they believe he attempted to rape a girl when he was younger. Only 36% of them said it would be a dealbreaker while 16% were unsure. As if his guilt would still present some doubt as to whether he deserves a promotion.

If that doesn’t tell you the depths of their moral depravity, I don’t know what does.

(Incidentally, 54% of Republicans said they would vote to confirm Kavanaugh even if he sexually assaulted her. No other sub-group had numbers as high as Republicans and white evangelicals.)

This isn’t a question of whether they believe Kavanaugh or Ford. This is a question about how white evangelicals would react even if they accepted Kavanaugh’s guilt, and the answer for half of them is that it wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference. So what if a woman was nearly raped as long as a conservative is placed on the Supreme Court?

It’s the same reaction they had when it came to voting for a president who admitted to grabbing women by the genitals just because he could. They just don’t care about what victims go through. Maybe because they think God will reward them for defending the unborn. One woman getting assaulted doesn’t matter as much as [make up any number you want] fetuses.

I’d be curious how many of those same evangelicals, who would still support Kavanaugh despite his theoretical guilt, would blame Dr. Ford for the incident."
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[Subduction Zone]

Just another example of why I can no longer consider myself to be a Republican.

Meanwhile I would not bet on Roe vs. Wade being overturned. Evangelicals are putting to much hope in that lost cause in my opinion. I do not think that Gorsuch would do so and I have not seen anything that would indicate Kavanaugh would vote that way either.

I wonder what their opinion would be if they knew that Kavanaugh would not follow their wishes (this is of course hypothetical), does anyone think that they would still cut him such a break if he was guilty?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

"As we speak, conservative Christians are working to discredit the testimony of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and students from Liberty University are protesting in defense of Brett Kavanaugh.

We know why they’re hell-bent on getting Kavanaugh confirmed to the Supreme Court: He would be a certain fifth vote to overturn abortion rights at the federal level, and no amount of bad behavior in his past is going to shake their conviction that the allegations against him are all part of some giant left-wing conspiracy.

Now we can put some numbers behind how many Americans are looking the other way in spite of the evidence against Kavanaugh. According to a NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll taken last week, 48% of white evangelical Christians say that Kavanaugh should be confirmed to the Supreme Court even if the charge of sexual assault is true.

I repeat: Nearly half of white evangelicals want Kavanaugh on the Court even if they believe he attempted to rape a girl when he was younger. Only 36% of them said it would be a dealbreaker while 16% were unsure. As if his guilt would still present some doubt as to whether he deserves a promotion.

If that doesn’t tell you the depths of their moral depravity, I don’t know what does.

(Incidentally, 54% of Republicans said they would vote to confirm Kavanaugh even if he sexually assaulted her. No other sub-group had numbers as high as Republicans and white evangelicals.)

This isn’t a question of whether they believe Kavanaugh or Ford. This is a question about how white evangelicals would react even if they accepted Kavanaugh’s guilt, and the answer for half of them is that it wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference. So what if a woman was nearly raped as long as a conservative is placed on the Supreme Court?

It’s the same reaction they had when it came to voting for a president who admitted to grabbing women by the genitals just because he could. They just don’t care about what victims go through. Maybe because they think God will reward them for defending the unborn. One woman getting assaulted doesn’t matter as much as [make up any number you want] fetuses.

I’d be curious how many of those same evangelicals, who would still support Kavanaugh despite his theoretical guilt, would blame Dr. Ford for the incident."
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Skwim you know better. This is the same base that supports Trump despite him cheating on his wives and grabbing p****. This is also the same political base that votes "lesser of two evils" with several other candidates on the ballot.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Skwim you know better. This is the same base that supports Trump despite him cheating on his wives and grabbing p****. This is also the same political base that votes "lesser of two evils" with several other candidates on the ballot.

I disagree on the concept that voting for the lesser of two evils is wrong. If one wants one's vote to count sometimes a difficult choice has to be made. Otherwise all that you are doing is protesting. I had the luxury of not having to worry about my vote counting in the last election so I was able to vote my conscious without worrying about "my candidate". I was ready to vote for Hillary as the "lesser of two evils" but she was a shoe in. I was able to vote third party as a protest to both. People from both sides will often vote for the lesser of two evils. This sin is not limited to the Republicans.

 

[sun rise]

This proves the Bible is right about some things at least 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

There are a lot of mammon worshipers today.

 

[Father Heathen]

This comes as no surprise considering that they've turned a blind eye to Trump's blatant dishonesty, "***** grabbing", infidelity, fornication with porn stars and Russian prostitutes, etc.
It's also no surprise that many evangelicals would be victim blamers and rape apologists given how misogynistic their belief system is.
When it comes to their religious morality, things only concern them if they involve abortion, homosexuality, or evolution. Other sorts of "sinful" matters are met with a shrug, especially when they occur among their own ilk.

 

[Mindmaster]

I’d be curious how many of those same evangelicals, who would still support Kavanaugh despite his theoretical guilt, would blame Dr. Ford for the incident."​

These numbers at a glance just seem impossible, and if any doubt is cast on Ford it's simply because she comes off as a complete airhead.

Doesn't know when the offense occurred?

Doesn't have a single person backing up her claim? Even her best friends?

Ok, that's easy...

What about pretending about being afraid of flying but flying all over the damn place? See, I know nothing about her but this is bs and lies so intrinsically I can't believe another thing she says. That testimony makes her absolutely nuts, I don't need to know anything else about her.

That doesn't mean Kav. is innocent, it just means I have no trust of her. But, I presume he is until proven otherwise. There is no proof...

Anyway, this article is the same-ole blame the white male evangelicals for everything liberal hate speech. As much as I abhor Christianity in every manifestation, this is just over-generalization to the point of stupidity. It presumes people don't have the power to make up their own minds, and that's absurdity -- it doesn't even have to be addressed. They're not disagreeing because of who they are, but because Ford is a useful idiot.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I disagree on the concept that voting for the lesser of two evils is wrong. If one wants one's vote to count sometimes a difficult choice has to be made. Otherwise all that you are doing is protesting. I had the luxury of not having to worry about my vote counting in the last election so I was able to vote my conscious without worrying about "my candidate". I was ready to vote for Hillary as the "lesser of two evils" but she was a shoe in. I was able to vote third party as a protest to both. People from both sides will often vote for the lesser of two evils. This sin is not limited to the Republicans.

I rather vote on principle even if I lose....Depending on the state, your vote may or may not count, but more importantly at least one does not sacrifice principle for vioting for someone who is less horrible than the other. More miportantly my comment is at at the base that touts Christian morality but does not enact none.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I rather vote on principle even if I lose....Depending on the state, your vote may or may not count, but more importantly at least one does not sacrifice principle for vioting for someone who is less horrible than the other. More miportantly my comment is at at the base that touts Christian morality but does not enact none.

Your vote is your choice. I do not think it is a bad idea to vote for the best candidate with a chance to win. I may at least have a positive effect on the country when I do that. There are merits to both approaches. My only criticism is that not only Republican supporters vote this way. Many Democrats did not like Hillary either. They preferred Bernie, but when it came to a choice between Trump and Hillary they had no problem voting for the lesser of two evils.

 

[Audie]

These numbers at a glance just seem impossible, and if any doubt is cast on Ford it's simply because she comes off as a complete airhead.

Doesn't know when the offense occurred?

Doesn't have a single person backing up her claim? Even her best friends?

Ok, that's easy...

What about pretending about being afraid of flying but flying all over the damn place? See, I know nothing about her but this is bs and lies so intrinsically I can't believe another thing she says. That testimony makes her absolutely nuts, I don't need to know anything else about her.

That doesn't mean Kav. is innocent, it just means I have no trust of her. But, I presume he is until proven otherwise. There is no proof...

Anyway, this article is the same-ole blame the white male evangelicals for everything liberal hate speech. As much as I abhor Christianity in every manifestation, this is just over-generalization to the point of stupidity. It presumes people don't have the power to make up their own minds, and that's absurdity -- it doesn't even have to be addressed. They're not disagreeing because of who they are, but because Ford is a useful idiot.

I not am a noted white evangelical but I agree with the
"same ol" characterization.

 

[Revoltingest]

There's another thread about this.
What I posted there.....

Looking at the survey, 12% of Democrats, 31% of independents, & 27% of women agree with this 54%.
Odd, eh?
Ref....
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1809251359.pdf#page=3

 

[onlytruth]

who in the presidency were nasty women chasers and rapist than John Kennedy and bill Clinton. or murder of women like ted Kennedy.

 

[onlytruth]

what white evangelicals stand for? are there any black,yellow or red ones.

 

[Audie]

what white evangelicals stand for? are there any black,yellow or red ones.

Call me yellow, I will call you chicken .

 

[Mindmaster]

There's another thread about this.
What I posted there.....

Looking at the survey, 12% of Democrats, 31% of independents, & 27% of women agree with this 54%.
Odd, eh?
Ref....
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1809251359.pdf#page=3

After reading that, it seems this post should be about non-college graduate men and women.

 

[Revoltingest]

After reading that, it seems this post should be about non-college graduate men and women.

Isn't it interesting that people quote statistics, but incompletely.
The full picture looks somewhat different.

 

[Mindmaster]

Isn't it interesting that people quote statistics, but incompletely.
The full picture looks somewhat different.

Though, honestly, that bracket has probably received the most benefit from Trump's policies in terms of job creation and whatnot. I don't blame them one bit. This is where Trump is directly visible, and they don't care what others think.

 

[Sunstone]

According to a NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll taken last week, 48% of white evangelical Christians say that Kavanaugh should be confirmed to the Supreme Court even if the charge of sexual assault is true.

I repeat: Nearly half of white evangelicals want Kavanaugh on the Court even if they believe he attempted to rape a girl when he was younger. Only 36% of them said it would be a dealbreaker while 16% were unsure. As if his guilt would still present some doubt as to whether he deserves a promotion.

If that doesn’t tell you the depths of their moral depravity, I don’t know what does.

(Incidentally, 54% of Republicans said they would vote to confirm Kavanaugh even if he sexually assaulted her. No other sub-group had numbers as high as Republicans and white evangelicals.)
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It's curious how some of the most moralistic, finger wagging people in America would condone rape.

The poll collaborates a few other polls that show Republicans and White Evangelicals to be among the most morally depraved groups of people in our society. Oddly enough, the very people within both groups who admit that they would condone rape and other crimes, strenuously object to being called "deplorables". They don't mind announcing that they would condone rape, but please don't call them deplorable for it.

We live in interesting times.

 

[onlytruth]

i have never met anyone who could justify rape of men or women, yes it happens to both. even a rapist knows it is wrong and wicked but don.t care. you don't need college programming to understand some basic principles of right and wrong.

 

[Salvador]

Until Christine Blasey Ford's non-corroborated hearsay allegations against Judge Kavanaugh, an American Bar Association committee had said unanimously that Judge Kavanaugh was “well qualified” for the Supreme Court, its highest possible designation. Unfortunately, Judge Kavanaugh may have been the victim of mistaken identity or the false memories of Christine Blasey Ford. I'm willing to bet the pending FBI investigation of Christine Blasey Ford's accusations against Judge Kavanaugh will wind up finding no corroborating evidence to support Christine Blasey Ford's allegations against Judge Kavanaugh.

If this investigation were to otherwise find even a shred of credible evidence in support of Christine Blasey Ford's allegations against Judge Kavanaugh, please then be rest assured, the Trump Administration and the GOP majority senate leaders will without hesitation withdrawal his nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.