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50 Killed at Florida Nightclub by Muslim Man

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/

A man armed with at least an assault rifle and a pistol entered a LGBT nightclub and opened fire. At least 50 people were murdered and another 50+ were injured. The death toll is expected to go up based on the critically injured that were transported to the hospital.

The man's name is Omar Mateen, and he was killed by police when they stormed the club. Omar is an American born Muslim, a Florida native, and had pledged allegiance to ISIS. He actually called 9-1-1 just before the attack and told the operator of his affiliation to ISIS.

This, during Ramadan, and with the ISIS leadership calling out for world wide violence.

For the anti-Trump people, this could not have happened at a worse time. This type of event will fuel Trump's desire to stop Muslim immigrants from entering the USA. It will have a bandwagon effect. I am aware that this man was American born, but since he is Muslim, it will fuel the hatred of that label.
 
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McBell

Unbound

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I don't have a clue but it does seem an opportunity for a militant murdering group
to capitalize on a tragedy.
"One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter."
But what "freedom" excuses murdering innocents of any group.
Obviously murdering harmless people means nothing to some.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
http://theweek.com/articles/534929/8-facts-need-know-about-islam-terrorism
1. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. That's 23 percent of the world's population. And somewhere close to 1.6 billion of these Muslims have not committed an act of terror, nor have they directly facilitated any terrorist act. So it's absolutely true to say that (in the context of terrorism) not only are most Muslims peaceful, but almost every Muslim alive bears no direct culpability for terrorist acts.

Support by Muslims for terrorism is very small indeed.
Sadly a few breed distrust and fear.
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
At this point it appears that ISIS is merely claiming responsibility because of the 911 call made before the attack.
One wonders if ISIS knew anything about it before it hit the news.
Seems like they are always late.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Some madcaps who will never admit they are wrong about every damn thing and any damn thing now try to feed us once again this dog **** about "gun control"? That POS Obama and his pathetic "address to America" never said the word Islamic terrorist once, not once, and then tries to deflect his own failures by blaming lack of "gun cuntrol" for this Muslim terrorist attack?

Obama can take his "our American values" bull crap and stick it where the sun don't shine, it isn't my values nor America's to be sitting ducks to be blown up, shot like unarmed Jews in Hitler's Germany or raped by HIV positive America-hating foreigners who are backward 12 Century scum.

No one wants to hear this bull **** about "gun control" from the far left who cheer on open borders, who are ideologues and hopeless dupes to the Democratic and Republican establishment agenda of cheap labor including the agenda of displacing American technology workers with cheap foreign labor in total violation of the actual wording and law of such VISA programs which even force Americans to train this cheap labor as they lose their jobs - at every level displacement is occuring, social services that should go to Americans in need depleted by foreigners of the worst kind and now Islamic terrorist who will never assimilate and follow a doctrine of murder of anyone not them - today homosexuals, tomorrow the rape and enslavement and torture of non-muslim children, our police services and FBI in no way can manage the numbers Hillary has fomented and who the Obamanists horde in, no way can the FBI have time to do their actual job such as the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton while we have enclaves of Islamic extremists worshipped by pathetic politicians who want more of them in hopes they will vote for them in the next upcoming election - disgusting, beyond the pale of common sense and so obvious.

The problem isn't "gun control", the problem is **** heads like Hillary and Obama who have created a P.C. environment where the FBI et all are too fast to close investigations so as not to dare insult potential Hillary voters and Muslims, nothing is EVER "conclusive" to the Obamanists if it involves Muslims or the faith of Obama's father. So if the guy is an Islamic extremist of foreign origin, and wants to work as a security guard, of course in Obama's America no one dare point out his extremist links, in fact he gets everything or else you are called a racist by the Obamanists, you get that security job and thus the license to purchase weapons, and then you can shoot up the gays, right? The FBI is now constantly having to juggle at any one moment over 1000 ongoing Islamic terrorist investigations where the suspects have already made like violent threats to Americans no different than the threats this current Muslim terrorist who mass murdered Americans and targetted homosexuals in an act of Islamic war on our society and in the name of foreign operatives - all because Obama and Hillary have allowed Islamic extremists enter into our homeland unchecked, and who now murder every "soft target" they see.

The answer isn't to track every American and their internet traffic et all. The answer is to not allow these Islamic terrorist scum to ever enter our homeland at all. You will never be able to control the internet, you have to totally shame and crush their philosophy and doctrines, not bow to it in the name of "values".

Obama is total garbage. He is ****** up in his head with his black Muslim anti-American father on one side and his far left white female as his mother on the other side, he is a grievance monger and total disaster as a President.

A lot more homosexuals will be murdered by Islamic extremists in America, this is by no way over yet and probably out of control now. This is a guy who has a long track record of other contacts, they are still out there.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
For the anti-Trump people, this could not have happened at a worse time. This type of event will fuel Trump's desire to stop Muslim immigrants from entering the USA. It will have a bandwagon effect. I am aware that this man was American born, but since he is Muslim, it will fuel the hatred of that label.
Which is ironic, since my first thought upon seeing the headline was that it was a white Christian lunatic who did it, which would be Trump's demographic. It is sickening how the pro-Trump crowd will seize on this to stoke fears about Muslims. But the truth is that this is very much a homegrown, American attack. America's out of control gun laws allowed the terrorist to have access to the weapons, which he legally acquired. Our homophobic culture is also to blame. The religion doesn't matter all that much, because he could've done the same as a Christian or a non-religious person.

So America will continue to be in denial of how the seeds of atrocities such as this are totally native to our culture and we will do nothing about it.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Some madcaps who will never admit they are wrong about every damn thing and any damn thing now try to feed us once again this dog **** about "gun control"? That POS Obama and his pathetic "address to America" never said the word Islamic terrorist once, not once, and then tries to deflect his own failures by blaming lack of "gun cuntrol" for this Muslim terrorist attack?

Obama can take his "our American values" bull crap and stick it where the sun don't shine, it isn't my values nor America's to be sitting ducks to be blown up, shot like unarmed Jews in Hitler's Germany or raped by HIV positive America-hating foreigners who are backward 12 Century scum.

No one wants to hear this bull **** about "gun control" from the far left who cheer on open borders, who are ideologues and hopeless dupes to the Democratic and Republican establishment agenda of cheap labor including the agenda of displacing American technology workers with cheap foreign labor in total violation of the actual wording and law of such VISA programs which even force Americans to train this cheap labor as they lose their jobs - at every level displacement is occuring, social services that should go to Americans in need depleted by foreigners of the worst kind and now Islamic terrorist who will never assimilate and follow a doctrine of murder of anyone not them - today homosexuals, tomorrow the rape and enslavement and torture of non-muslim children, our police services and FBI in no way can manage the numbers Hillary has fomented and who the Obamanists horde in, no way can the FBI have time to do their actual job such as the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton while we have enclaves of Islamic extremists worshipped by pathetic politicians who want more of them in hopes they will vote for them in the next upcoming election - disgusting, beyond the pale of common sense and so obvious.

The problem isn't "gun control", the problem is **** heads like Hillary and Obama who have created a P.C. environment where the FBI et all are too fast to close investigations so as not to dare insult potential Hillary voters and Muslims, nothing is EVER "conclusive" to the Obamanists if it involves Muslims or the faith of Obama's father. So if the guy is an Islamic extremist of foreign origin, and wants to work as a security guard, of course in Obama's America no one dare point out his extremist links, in fact he gets everything or else you are called a racist by the Obamanists, you get that security job and thus the license to purchase weapons, and then you can shoot up the gays, right? The FBI is now constantly having to juggle at any one moment over 1000 ongoing Islamic terrorist investigations where the suspects have already made like violent threats to Americans no different than the threats this current Muslim terrorist who mass murdered Americans and targetted homosexuals in an act of Islamic war on our society and in the name of foreign operatives - all because Obama and Hillary have allowed Islamic extremists enter into our homeland unchecked, and who now murder every "soft target" they see.

The answer isn't to track every American and their internet traffic et all. The answer is to not allow these Islamic terrorist scum to ever enter our homeland at all. You will never be able to control the internet, you have to totally shame and crush their philosophy and doctrines, not bow to it in the name of "values".

Obama is total garbage. He is ****** up in his head with his white Muslim anti-American father on one side and his far left black female as his mother on the other side, he is a grievance monger and total disaster as a President.

A lot more homosexuals will be murdered by Islamic extremists in America, this is by no way over yet and probably out of control now. This is a guy who has a long track record of other contacts, they are still out there.

GOOD GRIEF!

Another tragedy gets turned into an against Democrats political rant!

And the shooter was born in the USA.

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Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
Except according to those who knew him it was his hatred of the LBGT community that sent him over the edge, which fits into the current trend of increasing crime against the LBGT community.
The mental leaps one goes to disconnect Islam to this crime is incredibly disrespectful.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
The mental leaps one goes to disconnect Islam to this crime is incredibly disrespectful.
Because only Muslims have problems with bigotry towards LGBT people. Right...

What is disrespectful is using this homophobic terrorist massacre as an excuse to hate on another group, another minority. You think that's honoring their memory? The right-wingers who are using this as a sick excuse to bash Muslims don't give a **** about gay people. They hate our community just as much.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
The peaceful majority are not the problem: the extremist fringes are.
Though at the same time there are plenty of physically peaceful muslims who hold - or have sympathy for - extremist behaviour and beliefs.
We should not paint all muslims with the same brush, though it would be naive to play down the increasing danger of Islamic extremism: the cause of which may be partially rooted in the religion's core scripture.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Some madcaps who will never admit they are wrong about every damn thing and any damn thing now try to feed us once again this dog **** about "gun control"? That POS Obama and his pathetic "address to America" never said the word Islamic terrorist once, not once, and then tries to deflect his own failures by blaming lack of "gun cuntrol" for this Muslim terrorist attack?
Seriously? Are you ****ing serious right now?

"Bunch of people got shot...BLAME OBUMMER!"
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Some madcaps who will never admit they are wrong about every damn thing and any damn thing now try to feed us once again this dog **** about "gun control"? That POS Obama and his pathetic "address to America" never said the word Islamic terrorist once, not once, and then tries to deflect his own failures by blaming lack of "gun cuntrol" for this Muslim terrorist attack?

Obama can take his "our American values" bull crap and stick it where the sun don't shine, it isn't my values nor America's to be sitting ducks to be blown up, shot like unarmed Jews in Hitler's Germany or raped by HIV positive America-hating foreigners who are backward 12 Century scum.

No one wants to hear this bull **** about "gun control" from the far left who cheer on open borders, who are ideologues and hopeless dupes to the Democratic and Republican establishment agenda of cheap labor including the agenda of displacing American technology workers with cheap foreign labor in total violation of the actual wording and law of such VISA programs which even force Americans to train this cheap labor as they lose their jobs - at every level displacement is occuring, social services that should go to Americans in need depleted by foreigners of the worst kind and now Islamic terrorist who will never assimilate and follow a doctrine of murder of anyone not them - today homosexuals, tomorrow the rape and enslavement and torture of non-muslim children, our police services and FBI in no way can manage the numbers Hillary has fomented and who the Obamanists horde in, no way can the FBI have time to do their actual job such as the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton while we have enclaves of Islamic extremists worshipped by pathetic politicians who want more of them in hopes they will vote for them in the next upcoming election - disgusting, beyond the pale of common sense and so obvious.

The problem isn't "gun control", the problem is **** heads like Hillary and Obama who have created a P.C. environment where the FBI et all are too fast to close investigations so as not to dare insult potential Hillary voters and Muslims, nothing is EVER "conclusive" to the Obamanists if it involves Muslims or the faith of Obama's father. So if the guy is an Islamic extremist of foreign origin, and wants to work as a security guard, of course in Obama's America no one dare point out his extremist links, in fact he gets everything or else you are called a racist by the Obamanists, you get that security job and thus the license to purchase weapons, and then you can shoot up the gays, right? The FBI is now constantly having to juggle at any one moment over 1000 ongoing Islamic terrorist investigations where the suspects have already made like violent threats to Americans no different than the threats this current Muslim terrorist who mass murdered Americans and targetted homosexuals in an act of Islamic war on our society and in the name of foreign operatives - all because Obama and Hillary have allowed Islamic extremists enter into our homeland unchecked, and who now murder every "soft target" they see.

The answer isn't to track every American and their internet traffic et all. The answer is to not allow these Islamic terrorist scum to ever enter our homeland at all. You will never be able to control the internet, you have to totally shame and crush their philosophy and doctrines, not bow to it in the name of "values".

Obama is total garbage. He is ****** up in his head with his white Muslim anti-American father on one side and his far left black female as his mother on the other side, he is a grievance monger and total disaster as a President.

A lot more homosexuals will be murdered by Islamic extremists in America, this is by no way over yet and probably out of control now. This is a guy who has a long track record of other contacts, they are still out there.
Take this sick racist opportunist **** to Stormfront or whatever. :mad:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The mental leaps one goes to disconnect Islam to this crime is incredibly disrespectful.
I'm looking at facts. According to those who knew him, such as his own family, it was his hatred of the LBGT community that sent him over the edge. The other fact is that there has been an increase in crime violence and crime towards the LBGT community. Even without ISIS, calling 911 before he did it means it is very likely that he was going to be doing it regardless. Not everything is about the "big bad scawy Muswim," and no matter how it's spun, this is clearly a crime against the LBGT community that was carried out by someone who probably didn't even know a single person officially affiliated with ISIS.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Again, from what we know thus far...

1. He is an American born citizen that identifies with the Islamic religion.
2. He worked as a security guard and had legally purchased guns.
3. He targeted a LGBT nightclub.
4. He called 9-1-1 just prior to the shooting and told the operator that he was affiliated with ISIS.
5. It happened during Ramadan, and the ISIS leaders have called for world wide violence during this time.
6. Cops responded, stormed the club, exchanged gun fire with him, and sent him to the grave.
7. ISIS is cheering the event and claiming that he was one of their's.
 
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