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"Six hundred threescore and six" is English. You're referring to a translation from Greek to English. The New Testament wasn't written in English. English didn't even exist as a language when Revelation was written. Please look into the Greek originals, fragments and manuscripts.
It was not written "Sex hundred threescore and six" since that is middle English (not even modern English). It was written in Greek. The oldest fragment says "χιϛʹ."
There are lot of manuscripts and fragments, and there are plenty of small changes here and there.
And?
bold empty claim
This has been pointed out numerous times by numerous people in the past few years
Several " refutations " of the apparent significance of this include:
~ Nautical miles weren't a unit until quite recently
~ Nobody knows the precise location of the original Kaaba or supposed wall of Solomon's Temple, or even if it was part of Solomon's temple, or another structure
~ " numerology " is for fools
Now, I'm not trying to rub anything in here, or troll anybody like a jerk, but the last thread I posted it turned out that after the mocking ran out of gas, people who knew it all already, didn't know the most basic of topics { education in metrology, history of mathematics and mathematical astronomy and " numerology / gematria ", Mesopotamian history, etc } so I have decided that obviously I bored people to death and there is no point in going further { unless you are interested of course ..... }
What I am interested in, however, is what the masses { you } have to say about this distance between the two holy sites
Most often you will hear the stereotypical explanations for ' the devil ' { please read links in red below, for the sake of the discussion at least ]
Mind you I am not the type of person who thinks the " devil " is a little red guy with horns, or that the president of the United States is a holographic inter-dimensional Jewish moon lizard but rather that this comes from the Levite " scapegoat " ritual
in which a red ribbon was tied to the goats horns { for which exist several explanations according to traditional literature }, having roots in Canaanite religion { or possibly others }
...anyway, not to get too far off track here, I want to hear what you think about think about this
In other words,
Why does it look like somebody left the area of " Solomon's temple " in Jerusalem, traveling a distance in units that is based on Sumerian mathematics referencing a highly precise mathematical system of astronomy, in a direction that can only accurately be determined by a type of map that supposedly was not invented until thousands of years after Sumerian mathematical astronomers in Uruk, and built a structure that is based on mathematical astronomy, including it's minor and major axis [ the Kaaba } which reference the axial tilt of the earth { 66.6 degrees from the ecliptic } ?
Or for that matter, anything from anybody in any system of belief or religions who has anything interesting to add
Thanks
This has been pointed out numerous times by numerous people in the past few years
Several " refutations " of the apparent significance of this include:
~ Nautical miles weren't a unit until quite recently
~ Nobody knows the precise location of the original Kaaba or supposed wall of Solomon's Temple, or even if it was part of Solomon's temple, or another structure
~ " numerology " is for fools
Now, I'm not trying to rub anything in here, or troll anybody like a jerk, but the last thread I posted it turned out that after the mocking ran out of gas, people who knew it all already, didn't know the most basic of topics { education in metrology, history of mathematics and mathematical astronomy and " numerology / gematria ", Mesopotamian history, etc } so I have decided that obviously I bored people to death and there is no point in going further { unless you are interested of course ..... }
What I am interested in, however, is what the masses { you } have to say about this distance between the two holy sites
Most often you will hear the stereotypical explanations for ' the devil ' { please read links in red below, for the sake of the discussion at least ]
Mind you I am not the type of person who thinks the " devil " is a little red guy with horns, or that the president of the United States is a holographic inter-dimensional Jewish moon lizard but rather that this comes from the Levite " scapegoat " ritual
in which a red ribbon was tied to the goats horns { for which exist several explanations according to traditional literature }, having roots in Canaanite religion { or possibly others }
...anyway, not to get too far off track here, I want to hear what you think about think about this
In other words,
Why does it look like somebody left the area of " Solomon's temple " in Jerusalem, traveling a distance in units that is based on Sumerian mathematics referencing a highly precise mathematical system of astronomy, in a direction that can only accurately be determined by a type of map that supposedly was not invented until thousands of years after Sumerian mathematical astronomers in Uruk, and built a structure that is based on mathematical astronomy, including it's minor and major axis [ the Kaaba } which reference the axial tilt of the earth { 66.6 degrees from the ecliptic } ?
Or for that matter, anything from anybody in any system of belief or religions who has anything interesting to add
Thanks
If Tarsus is just the place called "Tarshish", the gematria is 1210. To make a similar sounding place which adds to 666, one would come up with "Tarsu". I know of no place by that name.
But why do you assume that Tarsus
Really? Please show me where you addressed Tarshish.
The full sentence was "why do you assume that Tarsus...in Hebrew wouldn't be spelled with a sin, not a samech (which would make the total 706 and sound exactly the same)?"
Why do you assume the Hebrew was Joshua? In the Greek rendering, is the student of Moses, Joshua, rendered Iesous? My Greek is no good, but a quick look has this: "Ἰησοῦ" for Jesus in Mark 1:1 and this: "Ἰησοῦς" for Joshua (Num 11:28). Since there is no set of original gospels in the Hebrew, how have you decided that his name was Joshua?
There were many common names back then, including Yehoshua. The ossuary (subject to a lot of criticism for a variety of reasons, and even if authentic to its time, not a burial box for the man mentioned in the gospels, or else it denies the validity of the gospels) has different renderings of the Hebrew name, so the issue of how any of them is then converted into Greek begs the question, WHICH name is being rendered? No one can know, so claiming precedent for the S is impossible.
Thanks for posting the aleph bet and the numbers. Though I learned it first in kindergarten, many years ago, it was a cute graphic. There are, of course, multiple types of gematria, but that's besides the point. Saying there is no "shinshin" is weird. The shin-shin is a function of the spelling, not the numbers. What you seem to be saying is that if I start with a number like 1500 and look for a word, I should opt for a series of tavs to fill out 1200, then have 1 shin. Gematria, though, doesn't work like that. First, we generally start with words, not with the numbers. But when we DO start with numbers, we can use any combination of letters we like, including multiples of a lower value. None of this addresses any of the points I made about the arbitrary spelling of a fictitious place.Here's the Hebrew alphabet.
400 is variously transliterally pronounced/written as tav or taw, threescore is variously samekh, samek or whatever. And when using gematria, you pick the largest number available and use that first and then work down--thus no shinshin. All this is in the link I posted that you either didn't read or ignored in lieu of being (fill in the blank). Also, Solomon's gold (1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chro 10:19) uses an apparently more modern Hebrew in the sources I have which actually has a word for "hundred"--but of course it's still the same number, and the a word search wouldn't have turned up that older system (without hundreds, in Tanach). It would be interesting to see if the gematria system we have is used in older translations. Well, it would be interesting to me anyway. Interesting that it works either way.
All the articles I read indicate that the limited DNA testing has already proven that the people in this ossuary aren't whom you think they are.