9/11 Was NOT an Inside Job

[ThirtyThree]

OK. I'm not pushing a barrow here. I am just reporting things I learned and saw along the way.

Provide a link to the video you saw! If you can not do this simple thing, what is to prove that this video even exists/existed? Do not command people to Google, present the link yourself.

 

[Papoon]

Provide a link to the video you saw! If you can not do this simple thing, what is to prove that this video even exists/existed? Do not command people to Google, present the link yourself.

I don't give commands. I mentioned a very well known and easily found documentary. It is called Zeitgeist. If you don't want to watch it, don't. You talk about commands, yet despite the widely known documentary being referenced, you demand that I go to the trouble of providing a link when all you have to do is type Zeitgeist into the YouTube search box. That is just silly.
Anyway, I am not going to enter further into this. I have mentioned what I know that indicates cause for suspicion. That's it. Look at the documentary or not. I have nothing more to add. I am not interested in debate and even less in responding to provocation, so post your last shot at me by all means, I won't be drawn into argument which is personal. Revoltingest offered disagreement, and his reasons, in a civilised and non-provocative way, and has my respect for that. Take a lesson from him.

 

[ThirtyThree]

I don't give commands. I mentioned a very well known and easily found documentary. It is called Zeitgeist. If you don't want to watch it, don't. You talk about commands, yet despite the widely known documentary being referenced, you demand that I go to the trouble of providing a link when all you have to do is type Zeitgeist into the YouTube search box. That is just silly.
Anyway, I am not going to enter further into this. I have mentioned what I know that indicates cause for suspicion. That's it. Look at the documentary or not. I have nothing more to add. I am not interested in debate and even less in responding to provocation, so post your last shot at me by all means, I won't be drawn into argument which is personal. Revoltingest offered disagreement, and his reasons, in a civilised and non-provocative way, and has my respect for that. Take a lesson from him.

Zeitgeist is not something I would ever consider as a credible source for anything.

 

[Papoon]

Zeitgeist is not something I would ever consider as a credible source for anything.

It contains footage of the event which you will not see anywhere else. Including lots of live interviews with survivors coming out of the building before the collapse all confirming multiple explosions heard from the basement, footage of sequenced detonations at lower levels preceding the collapse, and lots of other significant video and information. It includes details of the simulated attack being staged as an exercise at the same time as the real attack, which caused such confusion that no air force jets reached the scene for forty (FORTY !) minutes instead of the reasonable time of four minutes.
I'm not at all surprised that you want to discredit it.

I admit I was wondering what all the religious history stuff at the beginning had to do with it, nevertheless as it progresses it contains startling images and information you will never get from mainstream media.

Simply saying you don't trust it as a source is hardly a meaningful or valid response to what it contains.

It's like a fundamentalist christian rejecting biological evidence because they have already decided that they don't want to believe in the possibility of abiogenesis and evolution.

Confirmation bias is the relevant term.

 

[Wirey]

If you genuinely believe the towers were faked, and no one can figure it out except you, I think you may be beyond help. Who's that crazy?

 

[Milton Platt]

I do not believe 9/11 was an inside job and there is NO evidence to support such an extraordinary claim. There, debate it here.

Well, the terrorists were INSIDE the plane.....

 

[Papoon]

If you genuinely believe the towers were faked, and no one can figure it out except you, I think you may be beyond help. Who's that crazy?

If that were true you would have a valid point.
But it isn't, so you don't.

You could say that to each of the millions who have looked at the evidence. Trying to tell each one that they are loner nutcases is your delusion.

 

[Willamena]

The Twin Towers were designed to withstand a plane crash; go check the facts if you're interested, rather than just make up what you want to believe.

OMG, what a horrible video. I didn't make it past 40 seconds.

 

[Papoon]

OMG, what a horrible video. I didn't make it past 40 seconds.

It is horrible. And a lot of Iraqis didn't get past 40 seconds of 'Shock and Awe', which was a war crime and a turkey shoot carried out by gutless mongrels and obedient zombies. And as I remember it, people who did not believe the WMD excuse at the time were subject to the kind of jingoistic and ignorant ridicule still evident on threads like this.
Some people simply refuse to learn. Enough to keep a fraudulent democracy functioning.

 

[Willamena]

It is horrible. And a lot of Iraqis didn't get past 40 seconds of 'Shock and Awe', which was a war crime and a turkey shoot carried out by gutless mongrels and obedient zombies. And as I remember it, people who did not believe the WMD excuse at the time were subject to the kind of jingoistic and ignorant ridicule still evident on threads like this.
Some people simply refuse to learn. Enough to keep a fraudulent democracy functioning.

Good for the Iraquis, but my problem was just with editing. It really was a horrible video.

 

[Papoon]

Good for the Iraquis, but my problem was just with editing. It really was a horrible video.

Good for you. It was really a horrible mass murder for money and power.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Pretty good 4 minute video by the Smithsonian discussing why the towers fell so quickly. It points out that momentum transfer accounts for the rapid destruction. It says the weight of floors above the point of impact caused the rapid fall. The structural failure at point of impact allowed the upper floors as they fell to hammer the floors beneath. No bombs were necessary.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I think it's more complicated than that. I think there definitely was deception involved, which is nothing new with the American government since at least the Cold War. At the end of the day, it's all about power, money and fighting (proxy) wars to gain/retain control of power and money.

This is a pretty interesting site in general: http://www.isgp.nl/911

 

[wizanda]

but my problem was just with editing. It really was a horrible video.

Sorry, admit it is awful, it was put together by construction engineers, thus it is all in blocks....

There are some better produced ones, explaining all the evidence in 9/11 case, that was on the Architect specifically.

And here are a load more.....

Not saying you're going to get high budget editing, that is done by people with money, to help blind us to the facts.....

Facts unfortunately often come in brown paper wrapping; where as BS is often wrapped in plastic.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/category/911/

 

[Revoltingest]

Pretty good 4 minute video by the Smithsonian discussing why the towers fell so quickly. It points out that momentum transfer accounts for the rapid destruction. It says the weight of floors above the point of impact caused the rapid fall. The structural failure at point of impact allowed the upper floors as they fell to hammer the floors beneath. No bombs were necessary.

Aye, that is the obvious failure mode.
One need only look at the structural drawings, & imagine this kind of assault.
It has me wondering if the perps figured out this optimal exploitation of a vulnerability.
(The simulation is interesting in that it quantifies what looks so plausible.)
Since then, I've seen how structural engineers & architects are avoiding that particular vulnerability.

 

[Wirey]

If that were true you would have a valid point.
But it isn't, so you don't.

You could say that to each of the millions who have looked at the evidence. Trying to tell each one that they are loner nutcases is your delusion.

Yes, my delusion. As opposed to a government that secretly murdered it's own citizens, something the Russians and Chinese can't prove to discredit their worst enemy, but you can.

I actually pity anyone that believes this trash. It would be horrible to have your own brain turn on you.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, my delusion. As opposed to a government that secretly murdered it's own citizens, something the Russians and Chinese can't prove to discredit their worst enemy, but you can.

I actually pity anyone that believes this trash. It would be horrible to have your own brain turn on you.

Pbbbtttttt!
I envy them.
Theirs is a much more interesting world.

It reminds me of....

 

[Aquitaine]

With regards to 9/11, I tend to focus not on the actual attack, but how the public's fears were (in my opinion) exploited in order to garner support for the Afghanistan and Iraq war.

 

[Papoon]

Yes, my delusion. As opposed to a government that secretly murdered it's own citizens, something the Russians and Chinese can't prove to discredit their worst enemy, but you can.

I actually pity anyone that believes this trash. It would be horrible to have your own brain turn on you.

It was a horrible pity that the American public believed the trash about WMDs. And that their government and intelligence services duped them into war crimes.

Who would believe the US government would do such a thing ?

 

[Revoltingest]

Who would believe the US government would do such a thing ?

I'm raising my hand.
Although I think the duping by government was more of the self-imposed variety.
It was plausible, because Iraq did have WMDs....the only questions are when & where.