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A Bug for Dan

John53

I go leaps and bounds
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This was a tiny ladybug walking on a zucchini plant. It wasn't much over 1mm.

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Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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Tiger Moth, Amata nigriceps. For some reason these are loved, if they get inside most people will catch them gently and release them. Any other moth would get a quick thwacking or a face full of bug spray. They show up in plague proportions sometimes.

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Very nice. Love the pattern and colors. It is also nice when they are so distinct ID becomes easier.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
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Just rescued this one from the pool, it wasn't real big, maybe 5mm or slightly longer. Poor bugger is missing a leg. Maybe some kind of dung beetle?

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Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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Someone on the Aus entomology page ID'ed it as Onthophagus dandalu - Wikipedia

I'm always surprised to find out how little information there is on the internet about most species of bugs.
Looking at your picture, I can see the pronotal horn that I completely missed in my original examination of the photo. There is a fairly common species of Onthophagus in Missouri that has a similar appearance of shape with an often larger horn, known as Onthophagus hecate. I have tons of them in my collection. You can get them in pitfall trapping. in woodlands and edges. They don't have the metallic green pronotum, but the same general appearance. Horn development varies and males are designated major with full horn expression and minor with reduced horn expression. There is a fair amount of work done on horn polyphenism in this genus by a couple of guys named Moczek and Emlen.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Looking at your picture, I can see the pronotal horn that I completely missed in my original examination of the photo. There is a fairly common species of Onthophagus in Missouri that has a similar appearance of shape with an often larger horn, known as Onthophagus hecate. I have tons of them in my collection. You can get them in pitfall trapping. in woodlands and edges. They don't have the metallic green pronotum, but the same general appearance. Horn development varies and males are designated major with full horn expression and minor with reduced horn expression. There is a fair amount of work done on horn polyphenism in this genus by a couple of guys named Moczek and Emlen.

I got a couple more out of the pool today. I think they're the same species but lack the metallic green. I'll check the pics tonight.
 

Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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I got a couple more out of the pool today. I think they're the same species but lack the metallic green. I'll check the pics tonight.
I wish could be down there collecting from the sound of it. That would be awesome! I've got to save my pennies and save my dimes.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I wish could be down there collecting from the sound of it. That would be awesome! I've got to save my pennies and save my dimes.

Welcome anytime, we have 2 spare rooms we never go in to. I think this one is the same as the other one, just not as iridescent.

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Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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Exact same size as the first.
Onthophagus vary in size, but they don't tend to much over a centimeter. They are a very speciose group too. Something like 2,000 described species globally. From what I'm reading, Australia has at least twice as many species as the US.

I'm still thinking you are right and it is another specimen of Onthophagus.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Onthophagus vary in size, but they don't tend to much over a centimeter. They are a very speciose group too. Something like 2,000 described species globally. From what I'm reading, Australia has at least twice as many species as the US.

I'm still thinking you are right and it is another specimen of Onthophagus.

Dung beetles are big business here. I once spoke with a woman who did a lot of work with them for the CSIRO (Government agency for scientific research).
 
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