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A Bug for Dan

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Dung beetles are big business here. I once spoke with a woman who did a lot of work with them for the CSIRO (Government agency for scientific research).
They are indeed. The native species work with the native marsupial producers, but not so good with cattle and sheep. Imports seem successful. Your CSIRO has employed some top experts in scarabs and I have many of their papers in my library.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Another pool victim. It's about 15mm long.

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Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Another pool victim. It's about 15mm long.

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At first glance, it looks like a Cyclocephala, but I'm pretty sure it isn't. This is a group known as the masked chafers in the subfamily Dynastinae of Scarabaeidae. The dynastine scarabs are some of the largest and can reach 160 mm.

The more I look, the less convinced I am of my first impression. I'm not seeing some of the key characteristics of that group, though obviously difficult with photographs at times. No way to manipulate it, for instance, to get a better angle or change the glare to let it help define some of the characters. I'm buying some excuse, but your fauna is completely alien to me in many respects and what may be common to you, is brand new and unfamiliar to me. That makes it an interesting challenge.

I'm pretty sure it is not Scarabaeus omnisciencis or Scarabaeus circularis rationatus or anything else I can make up.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Pools are good for trapping insects and other things. I've found bats and toads in them too.

We get the odd green tree frog but never had any mammals (knock on wood). We do get a fair bit of bat poop on the cover from flying foxes which is a lot of fun to clean off.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
We get the odd green tree frog but never had any mammals (knock on wood). We do get a fair bit of bat poop on the cover from flying foxes which is a lot of fun to clean off.
That's right, you guys have the giants of the bat world. The biggest bat I've rescued is a red bat and that wasn't from a pool. Not sure what the issue was, but I found it at a light in the morning after sun up. I thought it was dead, but when I nudged it with the toe of my boot, it unfurled from the ball that it was in. I took it inside, let it warm up and then carried it to the woods where it promptly took flight and flew off to parts unknown. This would be a bat the size of a large mouse with wings.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
We get the odd green tree frog but never had any mammals (knock on wood). We do get a fair bit of bat poop on the cover from flying foxes which is a lot of fun to clean off.
If you happen to find any of these in the pool, let me know.
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John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
That's right, you guys have the giants of the bat world. The biggest bat I've rescued is a red bat and that wasn't from a pool. Not sure what the issue was, but I found it at a light in the morning after sun up. I thought it was dead, but when I nudged it with the toe of my boot, it unfurled from the ball that it was in. I took it inside, let it warm up and then carried it to the woods where it promptly took flight and flew off to parts unknown. This would be a bat the size of a large mouse with wings.

We have a few micro bats about. I like watching them hunt insects at dusk despite my parents warnings that they get in your hair.

Fruit bats are great at 3am, screaming and fighting in the neighbours palm trees -.-
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
We have a few micro bats about. I like watching them hunt insects at dusk despite my parents warnings that they get in your hair.

Fruit bats are great at 3am, screaming and fighting in the neighbours palm trees -.-
I've heard the neighbors late at night, but not any bats. Though I consider some of the neighbors to be bats.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
When I have some time, I want to try and see if I can figure out the ID of your two scarabs, but if you find out, don't let my interest in a challenge stop you from posting an ID.
 
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