Nimos
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I have no clue.Do you really believe those verses in Revelation 21:1-8 are to be interpreted literally? I sure don't. I believe they are figurative.
Baha'is believe that the new heaven and the new earth is the new world order Baha'u'llah wrote about.
It starts with this:
Revelation 1:1-3
1 - The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,
2 - who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.
3 - Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.
Obviously, that doesn't mean that it should be understood literally, but given what is known about the power of God, one could ask why it shouldn't be? because it could be possible.
Even if there is no lake of fire, how would you interpret its meaning then?Yes, it certainly would, but there is no reason to think that God wants to get rid of any people, let alone in a lake of fire.
There is no lake of fire and that is one reason we know this is figurative, not literal.
Revelation 21:8
8 - But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
What is the second death? in a place where there is not supposed to be death? And why do you think only certain "traits" are referred to as going to experience this?
Do you think that is a satisfying answer? or do you just accept it? Remember what I wrote about those claiming to have authority yet, unable to answer questions? If I recall correctly you agreed that it was not acceptable, but does that also apply to Baha'u'llah?Yes, it could just as well be that.
But God did not intervene, if we are to believe that he communicated with messengers, then Moses or Jesus ought to have intervened. Yet Moses is assumed to be the one that received them from God. And Jesus is assumed to have said that the law should not be changed before the new Earth, whether you believe that is the new order or an actual new Earth.TBH, I do not think that God made them, I think they were written by humans. Humans wrote the Old Testament, not God.
Do you think that the bible is so corrupted, that we can't trust anything about Moses or Jesus that is said in it?