A Great Day for fellow Republicans.

[godnotgod]

When the "mexican judge" thing came up, I challenged many of RF'ers on what makes that racist? Still don't feel I got adequate response, and instead got response that tells me people don't really understand actual racism. So, they bandy the word around as if they are the superior intellectuals in the room, whereas I observe them as barely understanding the concept. Feel free to throw in my face that the likes of Paul Ryan saw that as textbook racism, and I'll feel free to say I disagree with Paul Ryan on this, because he too is mistaken.

Maybe you will understand this:

In May, Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.


“He’s a Mexican,” Trump told CNN of Curiel. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.”


Curiel, it should be noted, is an American citizen who was born in Indiana. And as a prosecutor in the late 1990s, he went after Mexican drug cartels, making him a target for assassination by a Tijuana drug lord.


Even members of Trump’s own party slammed the racist remarks.


“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.


The comments against Curiel didn’t sit well with the American public either. According to a YouGov poll released in June, 51 percent of those surveyed agreed that Trump’s comments were not only wrong, but also racist.Fifty-seven percent of Americans think Trump was wrong to complain against the judge, while just 20 percent think he was right to do so.


When asked whether he would trust a Muslim judge, in light of his proposed restrictions on Muslim immigration, Trump suggested that such a judge might not be fair to him either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

Maybe it is YOU who are mistaken.

 

[godnotgod]

Everyone knows this?
Well, then everyone is wrong.
All the other Trump voters I know have a plethora of reasons for voting for him,
& more importantly, against Hillary. Corruption is merely one of many.

...the other being ineptness, which I already mentioned. Bottom lline is that Trump voters generally think the current admin is not doing things right and that Hilary would just have followed the same pattern, while they see Trump as an agent of real change.
(I changed my font color just for you ha ha)

That would be to fail to understand our motives & reasoning.

Now what was it that Trump repeatedly said about going after Hilary when he got into office?

.[/QUOTE]

 

[Acim]

It's more than a notion; it's a FACT: Trump is a RACIST, OK?

So let's look at some FACTS, shall we?

Is Donald Trump Racist? Here's What the RECORD Shows:

quoted from the article by Michael D’Antonio, the author of the book, "The Truth about Trump".

"Next in the Trump record on race came a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,

“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy."...

..."And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”
Donald Trump

Not racism, m'kay. This be stereotyping. Learn the difference.

Maybe we ought start with understanding what makes for facts.

 

[Acim]

So let's look at some FACTS about Trump's racism, OK?:

http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

Yes, let's. Wanna go through each point from this link, one of which we already addressed? I'm game. C'mon don't be shy. Cause I see none that rise to level of racism.

 

[Acim]

Maybe you will understand this:

In May, Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.


“He’s a Mexican,” Trump told CNN of Curiel. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.”


Curiel, it should be noted, is an American citizen who was born in Indiana. And as a prosecutor in the late 1990s, he went after Mexican drug cartels, making him a target for assassination by a Tijuana drug lord.


Even members of Trump’s own party slammed the racist remarks.


“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.


The comments against Curiel didn’t sit well with the American public either. According to a YouGov poll released in June, 51 percent of those surveyed agreed that Trump’s comments were not only wrong, but also racist.Fifty-seven percent of Americans think Trump was wrong to complain against the judge, while just 20 percent think he was right to do so.


When asked whether he would trust a Muslim judge, in light of his proposed restrictions on Muslim immigration, Trump suggested that such a judge might not be fair to him either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

Maybe it is YOU who are mistaken.

Disagree. I'm quite confident I'm not mistaken on this. The Curiel remarks are prejudice, not racism.

 

[godnotgod]

Not racism, m'kay. This be stereotyping. Learn the difference.

Maybe we ought start with understanding what makes for facts.

DUH!

Are you blind? I already documented the FACTS for you, which amounts to Trump being a RACIST. Why are you in DENIAL? Admit it, so we can move on.

 

[godnotgod]

Disagree. I'm quite confident I'm not mistaken on this. The Curiel remarks are prejudice, not racism.

Yeah, he's prejudiced because he's a RACIST. The FACTS I pointed out in the article I referenced show that he implemented his prejudice as RACIST policy during his years as a business man.

But his comment alone that 'laziness is a trait of black people' is racist, in exactly the same way that Hitler's use of eugenics and untermenschen against Jews was racist.

 

[Acim]

DUH!

Are you blind? I already documented the FACTS for you, which amounts to Trump being a RACIST. Why are you in DENIAL? Admit it, so we can move on.

You apparently have little understanding of the concept of FACT. Nor of racism / racist. When you get the intellectual integrity to engage in honest discussion, do let me know.

 

[Acim]

Yeah, he's prejudiced because he's a racist.

It's a big swing and.......
Ooooo a miss.

Keep trying.

 

[godnotgod]

You apparently have little understanding of the concept of FACT.

FACT is not a concept; it is FACT. I provided enough FACTS to qualify Trump as a RACIST.

FACT is that I have been a victim of RACISM many times, so can speak from first hand experience. It just takes one incident, and it is unmistakable. Don't try to tell me I don't understand. Trump is a RACIST, clear and simple, as the FACTS about his RACIST policies and comments clearly reveal.

 

[godnotgod]

It's a big swing and.......
Ooooo a miss.

Keep trying.

...as well as his being racist because he's prejudiced.

But even if he were just prejudiced, as you claim, we are specifically talking about RACIAL prejudice, no? Do we want such a person as president of the country? Well, you now have him, so what will we do with such a person, knowing that? It's OK?

 

[godnotgod]

Disagree. I'm quite confident I'm not mistaken on this. The Curiel remarks are prejudice, not racism.

You not only don't know how to read between the lines, you don't know how to connect the dots.

Are you certain your 'confidence' is not just plain old smugness?

 

[Acim]

FACT is not a concept; it is FACT.

Incorrect. We could go with dictionary definition if you are having trouble with this. You thus far have no meaning for fact, other than whatever you think is true is FACT.

I provided enough FACTS to qualify Trump as a RACIST.

Incorrect. You've actually provided zero information that would qualify Trump is a racist.

FACT is that I have been a victim of RACISM many times, so can speak from first hand experience. It just takes one incident, and it is unmistakable. Don't try to tell me I don't understand.

Based on what you've conveyed so far, I'm telling you precisely that. And I currently stand by it.

Trump is a RACIST, clear and simple, as the FACTS about his RACIST policies and comments clearly reveal.

It's getting very humorous in how you are framing all this. Or as you'd possibly state things, "It's a FACT that you are being humorous in your understanding of this topic. Clear and simple. It's a FACT how funny your argument is."

 

[godnotgod]

Incorrect. We could go with dictionary definition if you are having trouble with this. You thus far have no meaning for fact, other than whatever you think is true is FACT.

Incorrect. You've actually provided zero information that would qualify Trump is a racist.

Here are some FACTS that prove Trump is a RACIST:

http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

 

[Acim]

...as well as his being racist because he's prejudiced.

But even if he were just prejudiced, as you claim, we are specifically talking about RACIAL prejudice, no?

In many of the cases you've presented, I'd say yes. But this doesn't rise to level of racism. Here is dictionary definition of racism (pay attention):
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

Do we want such a person as president of the country?

I would argue that we've never had a POTUS (yet) that hasn't expressed racial prejudice at some point. Probably haven't had a person in this thread that hasn't expressed racial prejudice at some point. Probably haven't had a person on this forum that hasn't expressed racial prejudice at some point. So, with all that said, my answer to your question would be - yes, why not?

Well, you now have him, so what will we do with such a person, knowing that? It's OK?

It's normal, that's for sure. And as POTUS it needs to be curtailed or eliminated, but if it's not eliminated chances are very good he'd not be the only POTUS that has expressed racial prejudice while acting as POTUS. Anything in the stereotyping variety of prejudice that is intended to convey a negative impression and up to bigotry while POTUS ought to be called out while serving as POTUS. I would say hardly grounds for removal from office, but if such a person was to lose an election because of such remarks while serving as POTUS, that would make sense. Like thinking you could call half of the voters in one party "deplorable." Wouldn't that be funny if someone said that? Or even more funny that after saying it, they thought they could still get elected?

 

[Acim]

Here are some FACTS that prove Trump is a RACIST:

http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

Already addressed this in post #45.

 

[ShivaFan]

This has nothing to do with Republicans.

In fact the draining of the swamp means people like Paul Ryan are in big trouble and frankly need to be scared for their own "survival" and people like John Kasich need to probably move to Canada along with Lady Gaga and Milley Cyrus (? however you spell her name).

Drain the swamp will also include a purge.

Trump Transition Jobs in Government...

Tonight I was directed to a collaborative outreach where a minimum of an initial 4000 newly created jobs will be filled as soon as possible that will span various low levels of government ranging from immigration, to infrastructure and construction project jobs, a new federal level effort to fill teacher-educator positions with new educators including those involved in training citizens seeking employment in key marketable skill sets as part of a largely free educational outreach, in state level and directed national defense, and reindustrialization of America.

It is very clear to me, the Nationalists will be moving forward to use federal funds which may require "targetted tax increases" to establish these new projects with positions filled among the loyal supporters of Trump whether Democratic, Republican or Socialist. The drain the swamp has already begun. Nationalists will be coming into power and positions filled by those of allegiance to Donald J. Trump and the worst nightmare of the Trump haters is about to come and I welcome it.

Nationalist Reindustrialization
Nationalist Workers Development in Jobs to Reindustrialize
Nationalist Education
Nationalist Immigration
Nationalist Defense at the State Levels

Go ahead and protest. Have at it. Watch what is coming. You have taught us all good lessons and best practices over the years, and now you won't like yotr own medicine.

TO HILL AND BACK

 

[Lighthouse]

Maybe you will understand this:

In May, Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.


“He’s a Mexican,” Trump told CNN of Curiel. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.”


Curiel, it should be noted, is an American citizen who was born in Indiana. And as a prosecutor in the late 1990s, he went after Mexican drug cartels, making him a target for assassination by a Tijuana drug lord.


Even members of Trump’s own party slammed the racist remarks.


“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.


The comments against Curiel didn’t sit well with the American public either. According to a YouGov poll released in June, 51 percent of those surveyed agreed that Trump’s comments were not only wrong, but also racist.Fifty-seven percent of Americans think Trump was wrong to complain against the judge, while just 20 percent think he was right to do so.


When asked whether he would trust a Muslim judge, in light of his proposed restrictions on Muslim immigration, Trump suggested that such a judge might not be fair to him either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

Maybe it is YOU who are mistaken.

If you live in a world where everyone is just and every judge is fair, the justice system from top to bottom is all cupcakes and rainbows, I could understand your point better. That's not the reality that I see.

If I were to put myself in Trumps's shoes, I could understand the concerns. A judge with a Mexican heritage with immigrant parents overseeing a case of a guy who wants to build a wall and has strict immigration policies. I would have not said what he did, but as with everyone, with words not spoken... those would be at least their thoughts going their heads.

If you see that as racism, fair enough. I respect and can tolerate your subjective opinion.

 

[Lighthouse]

That's just a crock of pure s**t!

You're just plain wrong, and don't understand the depth of the issue. You make the common mistake of seeing the response to the race card as the race card being played, when the race card has already been played long ago and has been in place all this time. It's not so much that it is magnified, as that it appears magnified only because it has been played down for so long. Get it?

"Racism? What racism? Why, we're a kindler, gentler nation, don'cha know? What's that you say, dear? You can't what? Breathe? I can't hear you. What?"

So let's look at some FACTS about Trump's racism, OK?:

http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

What I see as hyper-sensitive or hyper-emotional race card, it's as I see it. Forgive me if you're intolerant of my opinion.

 

[godnotgod]

What I see as hyper-sensitive or hyper-emotional race card, it's as I see it. Forgive me if you're intolerant of my opinion.

Intolerant of it simply because it is wrong. Affirmative Action was not the playing of the race card; it was in response to the race card already having been played.

Negative response to Trumps' obviously racially charged remarks is not playing the race card; it is the response to Trump playing the race card.