A New Dark Age For Europe

[sooda]

Still not one single word that say PAUL. so why do you say it is him that is the demon?

Claiming the Whore of Babylon was Rome and the Pope was the antichrist is a political move during the Protestant Reformation. Not something we Protestants should be proud of, but fact none the less.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Not to forget that Islam has 99 names for God in the Qur'an alone, not including various names the Hadiths call it. "Allah" is not the name of a deity, it's a title of mystical significance but it's not a name in the sense that your friend down the road is named "Bob", my name could be "James", your mother could be "Susan" and my username is "Firemorphic".

But then, the Christian god's name isn't really "God", either, is it?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Please correct me if wrong, wasn´t allah the name of an arabic moon god that mohammed took as the name of his god ? I have heard this but really don´t know the answer,

In poker I think that's what they call a "tell".

 

[sooda]

Please correct me if wrong, wasn´t allah the name of an arabic moon god that mohammed took as the name of his god ? I have heard this but really don´t know the answer,

No.. Allah is just God in Arabic .. Like Gott is German for God and Dios is God in Spanish.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Tell that to the 6 million holocaust Jews. And yes, Paul is dead and buried, but his demon spirit lives on (Revelation 16:13-16), making preparations for Har-Magedon.

We had Armageddon already. Australia won. It was a minor side battle we took care of while single handedly winning the First World War. It's called history. Look it up.

 

[Spirit of Light]

But then, the Christian god's name isn't really "God", either, is it?

God is the title of the being. Same as buddha is a title of enlighten one. God means anointed one

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

God is the title of the being. Same as buddha is a title of enlighten one.

I am aware of this. Yet in many (most?) Christian traditions, it is used as the proper name of the deity, hence it usually being capitalised.

God means anointed one

actually, "God" just means "deity". "Messiah" means "anointed one".

 

[The_Fisher_King]

I doubt it. Jesus didn't believe in blood sacrifice or original sin either.

What's your perspective on the crucifixion? And for that matter 'Eid-al-Adha?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

By the way, IS fighters are not muslims, they only use the islam as a shield. Ask them a question from the Qur'an and they do not know the answer.

Evidence?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

The Quran only has the proper authority to define what is a true Muslim so let’s see what it says.

[62] Whether they are the ones who believe (in the Arabian Prophet), or whether they are Jews, Christians or Sabians–all who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and do righteous deeds–their reward is surely secure with their Lord; they need have no fear, nor shall they grieve.

So a terrorist is a terrorist, a killer is a killer and an assassin is an assassin. By the Quran’s own dedinition a Muslim is a person who does righteous deeds so that eliminates terrorist and cold blooded murderers.

As far as names are concerned. A black man may call himself white but he fools no one not even himself.

The verse doesn't exactly define a Muslim - it rather defines those who believe (are Muslims) or are Jews, Christians, or Sabians and who do righteous deeds as having a secure reward with Allah. One can be a believer or Jew or Christian or Sabian and not do righteous deeds but that doesn't take anything away from being a believer or Jew or Christian or Sabian.

 

[Notanumber]

Yet another Muslim demonizing thread.

Muslims 1.7 billion of them cause no harm to anyone.

It is not another Muslim demonizing thread. It is a thread about Islam. I hope you can tell the difference.

I feel sorry for all those Muslims that cause no harm to anyone. I am thankful that I am not one of them and I certainly do not want to be forced into joining.

 

[Notanumber]

You seem to have missed the point of my post. Words can cause harm to people. Just as I cannot be allowed, in a civil society, to punch someone in the face because I don't like their skin color, or their religion, I also cannot be allowed to slander them by carrying signs outside their place of work or business claiming they are pedophiles (for example). There are limits to 'free speech' just as there are limits to all other forms of human interaction in a civil society. This is something some of the folks here don't seem to grasp.

There is a huge difference between being violently aggressive against someone and criticising the ideology that they happen to follow.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Rather limited vision of neighbour you have, and perhaps this attitude explains some of the strife in this world

See Luke 10:25-37

But you are free to interpret jesus words to match whatever prejudice you hold

Well it's evidence that your limited of not knowing who the Priest and Levite are in
Luke 10:25-36

The Priest and Levite are brothers of Israel.
The Samaritan is Israel's neighbour.

As the Samaritans worship the same God as Israel.

Note in John 4 Verses 3-4 below, that Jesus left Judaea and departed again into Galilee, Which Galilee is the tribe of Benjamin of Israel, But before Jesus could go into Galilee the tribe of Benjamin, Jesus had to pass thru the Samaritan land first
which is the neighbour to the tribe of Benjamin of Israel.

John 4:1-12---"
1--"When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.

4 And he must needs go through Samaria.

5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.

6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.

7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.

8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)

9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle"

Note the Samaritan woman saying to Jesus in Verse 12 above, that Jacob as being the Samaritans father,
But also remember that Jacob had other children that was not by his wife Rachel.

"Rachel was a Biblical figure, the favorite of Jacob's two wives, and the mother of Joseph and Benjamin, two of the twelve progenitors of the tribes of Israel. Rachel's father was Laban. Her older sister was Leah, Jacob's first wife"

Note Rachel had two sons, one which is Benjamin, which is the tribe of Israel.
Which is Galilee, which the Samaritans are neighbour to Galilee. Benjamin.

Note that before this Jacob had other children by Rachel's handmaiden.
Unto which came the Samaritans.
Half breed Jews, and not full blooded Jews of Israel. Which are the Samaritans.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Makr as you describe it is the human desite . Makr for God means hidden. Like hidden wisdom or hidden knowledge.
The way you talk about islam and muslims make it look like you hate them. Have any muslim harmed you personally?

Well it's evidence that you can be easily deceived by Muslims.

According to the Qu'ran, Allah is the "best of deceivers" (3:54; 8:30). The phrase is often translated into English as "best of planners," "best of schemers," or "best of plotters," but the root word (makr) means "deception." Hence, the following Qur'an verses should be rendered as follows:

Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

Qur'an 7:99—Are they then safe from Allah's deception? No one feels safe from Allah's deception except those that shall perish.

Qur'an 8:30—And (remember) when the unbelievers plotted deception against you (O Muhammad), to imprison you, or kill you, or expel you. They plotted deception, but Allah also plotted deception; and Allah is the best of deceivers.

The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents.

For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is:

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroowamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

Other texts that identify Allah as a makrinclude:

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr.
As to how you come by Make, as meaning hidden, is anyone's guess.
The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr.

 

[sooda]

Well it's evidence that your limited of not knowing who the Priest and Levite are in
Luke 10:25-36

The Priest and Levite are brothers of Israel.
The Samaritan is Israel's neighbour.

As the Samaritans worship the same God as Israel.

Note in John 4 Verses 3-4 below, that Jesus left Judaea and departed again into Galilee, Which Galilee is the tribe of Benjamin of Israel, But before Jesus could go into Galilee the tribe of Benjamin, Jesus had to pass thru the Samaritan land first
which is the neighbour to the tribe of Benjamin of Israel.

John 4:1-12---"
1--"When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.

4 And he must needs go through Samaria.

5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.

6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.

7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.

8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)

9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle"

Note the Samaritan woman saying to Jesus in Verse 12 above, that Jacob as being the Samaritans father,
But also remember that Jacob had other children that was not by his wife Rachel.

"Rachel was a Biblical figure, the favorite of Jacob's two wives, and the mother of Joseph and Benjamin, two of the twelve progenitors of the tribes of Israel. Rachel's father was Laban. Her older sister was Leah, Jacob's first wife"

Note Rachel had two sons, one which is Benjamin, which is the tribe of Israel.
Which is Galilee, which the Samaritans are neighbour to Galilee. Benjamin.

Note that before this Jacob had other children by Rachel's handmaiden.
Unto which came the Samaritans.
Half breed Jews, and not full blooded Jews of Israel. Which are the Samaritans.

Long before Jesus 4 Arab tribes settled in Samaria.. so that was an issue about purity as well.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Your church has it own dictionary and thesaurus?

First of all, before you accuse or make accusations, You should first find out things first.
As I do not belong to any church or Religious organizations that pertains to the teachings of man's.
As I only go by the teachings of Christ Jesus alone.

 

[Cooky]

I guess John the Baptist was a pointless prophet then, as all he did was uphold old traditions?

Strange how the bible goes on about his baptisms isn't it? Mentioning it in so many books, as if it was something new.

...But I know better than that.

 

[ChristineM]

Well it's evidence that your limited of not knowing who the Priest and Levite are in
Luke 10:25-36

The Priest and Levite are brothers of Israel.
The Samaritan is Israel's neighbour.

As the Samaritans worship the same God as Israel.

Note in John 4 Verses 3-4 below, that Jesus left Judaea and departed again into Galilee, Which Galilee is the tribe of Benjamin of Israel, But before Jesus could go into Galilee the tribe of Benjamin, Jesus had to pass thru the Samaritan land first
which is the neighbour to the tribe of Benjamin of Israel.

John 4:1-12---"
1--"When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.

4 And he must needs go through Samaria.

5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.

6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.

7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.

8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)

9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle"

Note the Samaritan woman saying to Jesus in Verse 12 above, that Jacob as being the Samaritans father,
But also remember that Jacob had other children that was not by his wife Rachel.

"Rachel was a Biblical figure, the favorite of Jacob's two wives, and the mother of Joseph and Benjamin, two of the twelve progenitors of the tribes of Israel. Rachel's father was Laban. Her older sister was Leah, Jacob's first wife"

Note Rachel had two sons, one which is Benjamin, which is the tribe of Israel.
Which is Galilee, which the Samaritans are neighbour to Galilee. Benjamin.

Note that before this Jacob had other children by Rachel's handmaiden.
Unto which came the Samaritans.
Half breed Jews, and not full blooded Jews of Israel. Which are the Samaritans.

Me thinks thou doth protest to much.

I am quoting words acclaimed to be spoken by jesus in one conversation

I do not need a time machine to cherry pick what jesus said at a completely different time to modify what he said to massage my own sensibilities.

 

[sooda]

First of all, before you accuse or make accusations, You should first find out things first.
As I do not belong to any church or Religious organizations that pertains to the teachings of man's.
As I only go by the teachings of Christ Jesus alone.

Christianity has never been perfect.. considering the Dark Ages.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Long before Jesus 4 Arab tribes settled in Samaria.. so that was an issue about purity as well.

Those 4 Arab tribes, has nothing to do with Samaritans. As the Samaritans are only half breed Jews of Israel.
As Galilee is the tribe of Benjamin,
Which the Samaritans are neighbour to the tribe of Benjamin, which is Galilee that is spoken of in the book of John 4:1-12

Note the Samaritan woman saying to Jesus in Verse 12 above, that Jacob as being the Samaritans father,
But also remember that Jacob had other children that was not by his wife Rachel.

"Rachel was a Biblical figure, the favorite of Jacob's two wives, and the mother of Joseph and Benjamin, two of the twelve progenitors of the tribes of Israel. Rachel's father was Laban. Her older sister was Leah, Jacob's first wife"

Note Rachel had two sons, one which is Benjamin, which is the tribe of Israel.
Which is Galilee, which the Samaritans are neighbour to Galilee. Benjamin.

Note that before this Jacob had other children by Rachel's handmaiden.
Unto which came the Samaritans.
Half breed Jews, and not full blooded Jews of Israel. Which are the Samaritans.