A New Dark Age For Europe

[sooda]

Those 4 Arab tribes, has nothing to do with Samaritans. As the Samaritans are only half breed Jews of Israel.
As Galilee is the tribe of Benjamin,
Which the Samaritans are neighbour to the tribe of Benjamin, which is Galilee that is spoken of in the book of John 4:1-12

Note the Samaritan woman saying to Jesus in Verse 12 above, that Jacob as being the Samaritans father,
But also remember that Jacob had other children that was not by his wife Rachel.

"Rachel was a Biblical figure, the favorite of Jacob's two wives, and the mother of Joseph and Benjamin, two of the twelve progenitors of the tribes of Israel. Rachel's father was Laban. Her older sister was Leah, Jacob's first wife"

Note Rachel had two sons, one which is Benjamin, which is the tribe of Israel.
Which is Galilee, which the Samaritans are neighbour to Galilee. Benjamin.

Note that before this Jacob had other children by Rachel's handmaiden.
Unto which came the Samaritans.
Half breed Jews, and not full blooded Jews of Israel. Which are the Samaritans.

As you move north they were more prosperous and cosmopolitan. Do you consider Jews a "race"?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Me thinks thou doth protest to much.

I am quoting words acclaimed to be spoken by jesus in one conversation

I do not need a time machine to cherry pick what jesus said at a completely different time to modify what he said to massage my own sensibilities.

Well it's evidence that you didn't know who the Priest and Levite are.

Because everything that I given refutes everything that you given.

But if you can't handle that, that's your problem and not mine.

 

[sooda]

Those 4 Arab tribes, has nothing to do with Samaritans. As the Samaritans are only half breed Jews of Israel.
As Galilee is the tribe of Benjamin,
Which the Samaritans are neighbour to the tribe of Benjamin, which is Galilee that is spoken of in the book of John 4:1-12

Note the Samaritan woman saying to Jesus in Verse 12 above, that Jacob as being the Samaritans father,
But also remember that Jacob had other children that was not by his wife Rachel.

"Rachel was a Biblical figure, the favorite of Jacob's two wives, and the mother of Joseph and Benjamin, two of the twelve progenitors of the tribes of Israel. Rachel's father was Laban. Her older sister was Leah, Jacob's first wife"

Note Rachel had two sons, one which is Benjamin, which is the tribe of Israel.
Which is Galilee, which the Samaritans are neighbour to Galilee. Benjamin.

Note that before this Jacob had other children by Rachel's handmaiden.
Unto which came the Samaritans.
Half breed Jews, and not full blooded Jews of Israel. Which are the Samaritans.

Laban was Aramean.. Maybe they were all half breeds.

 

[Faithofchristian]

As you move north they were more prosperous and cosmopolitan. Do you consider Jews a "race"?

Well, let's see, I'm a Jew of the tribe of
Aser of Israel
That alone should tell you, You think?

 

[sooda]

Well, let's see, I'm a Jew of the tribe of
Aser of Israel
That alone should tell you, You think?

Really? Asher.

Do you think Jews are a race?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Laban was Aramean.. Maybe they were all half breeds.

Laban being the son of Nahor
And Nahor being the brother of Abraham
And Abraham being the Father of Isaac.
And Isaac being the Father of Jacob.

 

[Cooky]

You should find this educational.

The video is extremely accurate. I like Bill Warner.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Really? Asher.

Do you think Jews are a race?

That map proves nothing, As over time places and things changed.

As other places that are now in the world, was not there 3000 years ago,
All because places do change over along period of time. Especially over 3000 or more years.

 

[Cooky]

Ahh, so he never actually meant "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. " But he really meant "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, except those christians you dont like and muslims and atheists"

So condemning a false religion equals not loving your neighbor? I don't think so.

 

[2ndpillar]

We had Armageddon already. Australia won. It was a minor side battle we took care of while single handedly winning the First World War. It's called history. Look it up.

The battle of Megiddo was the crushing of the feet of iron/Germany and clay/Ottomans (Daniel 2:34), it was not the final crushing of all the kingdoms at the same time (Daniel 2:35 & 44-45). The battle of Har-Magedon, which is located above the valley of Jezreel, and results in the combining of "the sons of Judah", and the "sons of Israel" (Hosea 1:11) & (Ezekiel 36 & 37), has not happened yet, except in the historical context of Jehu defeating the kings of Judah and Israel in the valley of Jezreel. Har-Magedon will be the gathering of all the kings of the earth, the nations/Gentiles, for judgment (Revelation 16:13-16) & (Joel 3:2). That would include the nations represented by gold, silver, bronze, and iron & clay (Daniel 2:35), not just the mix of iron and clay.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Evidence?

Just listen to when the speak

 

[loverofhumanity]

The verse doesn't exactly define a Muslim - it rather defines those who believe (are Muslims) or are Jews, Christians, or Sabians and who do righteous deeds as having a secure reward with Allah. One can be a believer or Jew or Christian or Sabian and not do righteous deeds but that doesn't take anything away from being a believer or Jew or Christian or Sabian.

Here righteous deeds go hand in hand with being a believer. One is unacceptable without the other. It seems self explanatory. Doing righteous deeds while believing is rewarded. Otherwise it would just say believing is enough but it links belief and good deeds as twin duties.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Just listen to when the speak

Have you got a source for that?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

The battle of Megiddo was the crushing of the feet of iron/Germany and clay/Ottomans (Daniel 2:34), it was not the final crushing of all the kingdoms at the same time (Daniel 2:35 & 44-45). The battle of Har-Magedon, which is located above the valley of Jezreel, and results in the combining of "the sons of Judah", and the "sons of Israel" (Hosea 1:11) & (Ezekiel 36 & 37), has not happened yet, except in the historical context of Jehu defeating the kings of Judah and Israel in the valley of Jezreel. Har-Magedon will be the gathering of all the kings of the earth, the nations/Gentiles, for judgment (Revelation 16:13-16) & (Joel 3:2). That would include the nations represented by gold, silver, bronze, and iron & clay (Daniel 2:35), not just the mix of iron and clay.

Yeah, we had it already. All the kings of earth, i.e. the First World War. Australia won it. Australia can be gold, if you like, why not? Silver is obviously Argentina and bronze can be New Zealand, because obviously that's their colour, amIright?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Here righteous deeds go hand in hand with being a believer. One is unacceptable without the other. It seems self explanatory. Doing righteous deeds while believing is rewarded. Otherwise it would just say believing is enough but it links belief and good deeds as twin duties.

But clearly one can be a believer without doing righteous deeds. Else the verse wouldn't refer to those who believe as distinct from the doing of righteous deeds (the verse clearly refers to those who believe and do righteous deeds). If one believes but doesn't do righteous deeds, then one cannot be guaranteed a secure reward. I am not saying doing righteous deeds is not important, just that one can be a believer without doing righteous deeds. Not all Muslims are good Muslims, but they are still Muslims (if they believe in Allah and the final Messengership of Muhammad (pbuh)).

 

[loverofhumanity]

It is not another Muslim demonizing thread. It is a thread about Islam. I hope you can tell the difference.

Aaaaaaaa feel sorry for all those Muslims that cause no harm to anyone. I am thankful that I am not one of them and I certainly do not want to be forced into joining.

Barbaric is over the top I believe. Violence and brutality is both in Eastern and western societies just look at the gun deaths in America. In so called ‘civilized usa’ in 2017 there were nearly 15,000 gun deaths. I wouldn’t personally want to live in the USA with all its gun violence and it isn’t an Islamic country either.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Have you got a source for that?

No. But youtube have many videos that one can listen to

 

[loverofhumanity]

But clearly one can be a believer without doing righteous deeds. Else the verse wouldn't refer to those who believe as distinct from the doing of righteous deeds (the verse clearly refers to those who believe and do righteous deeds). If one believes but doesn't do righteous deeds, then one cannot be guaranteed a secure reward. I am not saying doing righteous deeds is not important, just that one can be a believer without doing righteous deeds. Not all Muslims are good Muslims, but they are still Muslims (if they believe in Allah and the final Messengership of Muhammad (pbuh)).

Fair enough I respect your view. I just understand the two are linked. But linking paradise to good deeds likewise links hell to bad deeds. It seems in the Quran the two are always linked repeatedly in different passages.

16:97

Whosoever works righteousness, whether male or female, and is a believer, We shall give them new life, a good life, and We shall surely render unto them their reward in accordance with the best of that which they used to do.

 

[2ndpillar]

Yeah, we had it already. All the kings of earth, i.e. the First World War. Australia won it. Australia can be gold, if you like, why not? Silver is obviously Argentina and bronze can be New Zealand, because obviously that's their colour, amIright?

The battle against Rome/iron/Russia and the Muslims/clay is still ongoing. The "bow, the sword, and war" has not been "abolished from the land" (Hosea 2:18). Australia apparently even helped the British in the struggle with respect to Afghanistan, although with multiple horsepower versus single horse power. As a result, you apparently have your Muslim's taking apart Australia's welfare system, and straining law enforcement capabilities. Although this is not a problem limited to Australia.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

No. But youtube have many videos that one can listen to

Can you provide me with a link or two?