A proposed solution for Young Earth Creationism

[Jose Fly]

That would be a defence of God's righteous judgement on a society that killed children by cooking them in statues of their god.

It's a defense of genocide by asserting "God told them to do it". I'll let that speak for itself.

Are you saying that in that war it would have been better to kill the girls also instead of letting them live as wives and servants amongst the Israelites?

It's a moot point, since I don't believe the events described actually occurred.

 

[Polymath257]

So are you saying they should have just been killed?

No.

If not, what are you saying should have happened to them?

Killing them or putting them into slavery. How about letting them live freely?

 

[ElishaElijah]

That you chose to dodge the point of the question shows that at least on some level, you appreciate the horror of what you're defending.

An equivalent scenario in today’s world would be similar to the leader of Israel praying and asking God what kind of military response they should make when their neighboring enemies have just threatened to wipe them out and bombed their cities not your kind of question.

 

[Jose Fly]

An equivalent scenario in today’s world would be similar to the leader of Israel praying and asking God what kind of military response they should make when their neighboring enemies have just threatened to wipe them out and bombed their cities not your kind of question.

Right, and when he tells the Israeli troops to commit genocide against a neighboring country and take their young girls as spoils of war, he will be charged with crimes against humanity. Him saying "But God told me to" won't be a valid defense.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Right, and when he tells the Israeli troops to commit genocide against a neighboring country and take their young girls as spoils of war, he will be charged with crimes against humanity. Him saying "But God told me to" won't be a valid defense.

You’re using loaded question fallacies and improper reasoning. What they end up with is the land in today’s world, the females and children that Israel’s enemies use as human shields would love to live in peace under a different government.
My question to you is why you’re siding with the terrorists and instigators of war?

 

[Jose Fly]

You’re using loaded question fallacies and improper reasoning. What they end up with is the land in today’s world, the females and children that Israel’s enemies use as human shields would love to live in peace under a different government.

So you honestly think the world would allow Israel (or any other country) to commit genocide and take young girls as spoils of war.....and do nothing? LOL....okay dude, whatever.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Yeah, but you don't really believe that, do you?

Do you really think a Christian Star Trek fan is going to get to Heaven and then God will send them to Hell for following two religions? Of course not.

So come on, stop playing games. You know what a religion is, and you know that atheism isn't a religion.

A religion is a belief system. Atheism certainly qualifies.

 

[ElishaElijah]

So you honestly think the world would allow Israel (or any other country) to commit genocide and take young girls as spoils of war.....and do nothing? LOL....okay dude, whatever.

Why are you siding with terrorists whose goal is to wipe Israel off the map? Have you forgotten the Holocaust?

 

[Jose Fly]

Why are you siding with terrorists whose goal is to wipe Israel off the map? Have you forgotten the Holocaust?

What th......? Do you have mental health issues or something?

 

[ElishaElijah]

So you honestly think the world would allow Israel (or any other country) to commit genocide

Seems like the nations today could care less when Israel’s neighbors threaten to wipe them out (genocide). You seem fine with that, same thing was happening to Israel in Moses day in Numbers. Not once have you mentioned the potential genocide of Israel by the other nations, you seem sympathetic to them.

 

[Jose Fly]

Seems like the nations today could care less when Israel’s neighbors threaten to wipe them out (genocide). You seem fine with that, same thing was happening to Israel in Moses day in Numbers. Not once have you mentioned the potential genocide of Israel by the other nations, you seem sympathetic to them.

Later dude.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Later dude.

See ya, you don’t want to answer that I take it? That’s fine

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You mean being delivered by God, being changed and God opening my understanding of life, His Word, speaking to me are just beliefs? Maybe to you but 30 years of relationship with God, Him proving His Word are not just beliefs, they are facts because He has done it. You are entitled to doubt but I’m living it. In my view and what God says in the Bible is that there is One True God and the rest are frauds, there are many vices and idols. I entertained a lot of them in my life before I found the One True God Jesus Christ and that’s my story.

Again, you really believing it, does not make it true.
Just like my friend's brother really believing it, does not make it true.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Lol, that's pretty funny considering that over 90% of the people in the world believe in God.

So?
There was a time when over 90% believed that the sun was being pulled by a chariot.

Can a myth really change your life?

Obviously, yes.

I like super hero movies, but I would not say they changed my life. Jesus certainly did. And even though I am a poor follower, he still does.

So?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You’re saying no evidence and there is lots of evidence, you just don’t believe the evidence, while I do because the evidence the believers wrote by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit as the Bible says, lines up with my experience with God as well, the Spirit of God bears witness to me of the Truth. This is my confidence.

Beliefs aren't evidence.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

On the other hand if God commanded something I’m going to side with Him because He’s proven to be Just, Fair, Generous, Holy and Righteous.

Aka, the moral bankruptcy that is "my perceived authority decides what is moral for me"

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

He told me to love my neighbors, which we do. On the other hand in our current society we make laws that place women and children in danger by allowing men to walk around naked in the women’s spa area, kill offspring, justify stealing, murder etc. like a lot of cities right now.
So we didn’t live in that period of time where nations like Egypt enslaved the Israelites and the other nations attacked them and ended up dying themselves.

you didn't answer his question.

He asked you if you would kill your neighbors if god asked you to.

He's not asking you if god is asking you to.
He's asking: IF god asks that off you, would you then do it?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

See ya, you don’t want to answer that I take it? That’s fine

Actually, seems to me that @Jose Fly is backing out of the conversation because you are all over the place, except on point.
And he seems to think it's impossible to have a rational conversation with you about anything.

I can't say I really disagree.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Aka, the moral bankruptcy that is "my perceived authority decides what is moral for me"

Nope

 

[ElishaElijah]

you didn't answer his question.

He asked you if you would kill your neighbors if god asked you to.

He's not asking you if god is asking you to.
He's asking: IF god asks that off you, would you then do it?

Loaded questions are fallacies, not even the same situation when another nation attacks Israel, follow the thread.