A proposed solution for Young Earth Creationism

[ElishaElijah]

No.

Let's review:

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The only points here that are enforced by law is 6 and 8.

And I can guarantee you that they are not law "because they are part of the 10 commandments".

As for 7, in essence, there certainly is no law against cheating. You're not going to get jailed for it.
But it might work in your disadvantage during divorce. You breached the contract, after all.

So really, it's 2 (and a half - let's throw you a bone) out of 10.
And 2 of them aren't laws merely because of them being part of the 10 commandments.
No society allows murder and thievery. Abrahamic culture or not.


So in short: you could not be more wrong.

He is correct and the key word is “were”.

 

[ElishaElijah]

They're creating the components of life:

Who did this? Man, who is made
In the image of God acting as the creator and still using materials created by God.
You don’t see animals searching for the meaning of life, only human beings.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Well now, I'm getting confused.

Because back in post 259 you agreed that being a Star Trek fan could count as a religion for some people.

So Star Trek can be a religion, but not a belief system?

Only if one believed star trek were true would it be their religion.

 

[Wildswanderer]

No.

Let's review:

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The only points here that are enforced by law is 6 and 8.

And I can guarantee you that they are not law "because they are part of the 10 commandments".

As for 7, in essence, there certainly is no law against cheating. You're not going to get jailed for it.
But it might work in your disadvantage during divorce. You breached the contract, after all.

So really, it's 2 (and a half - let's throw you a bone) out of 10.
And 2 of them aren't laws merely because of them being part of the 10 commandments.
No society allows murder and thievery. Abrahamic culture or not.


So in short: you could not be more wrong.

I never said they were part of the ten commandments but that law in this country was based on the ten commandments.
See Washington DC for confirmation.

Moses is featured in a sculpture on the East side of the Supreme Court building.

Moses appears in the House Chamber in the Capitol building.

Moses holding the 10 Commandments in the courtroom of the Supreme Court.
Like it or not religion has played a part in the history of our law and in the history of our country.

 

[tas8831]

I never said they were part of the ten commandments but that law in this country was based on the ten commandments.
See Washington DC for confirmation.

Moses is featured in a sculpture on the East side of the Supreme Court building.

Moses appears in the House Chamber in the Capitol building.

Moses holding the 10 Commandments in the courtroom of the Supreme Court.
Like it or not religion has played a part in the history of our law and in the history of our country.

Yet no mention in the Constitution.
Sad...

 

[tas8831]

Why do athiests spend hours defending their beliefs on the internet? Because it's their religion.

So precious to see Christianists try to drag atheism down to their level.
Well, at least atheists are not trying to force their views on everyone else, 1st Amendment be damned.

 

[tas8831]

By now you should know I don't believe we developed over billions of years. Nice fairly tale though. Kinda reminds me of something Disney would put out.

So, you have no science background. Explains your plagiarism in science threads.

 

[tas8831]

Still more believable than everything coming from nothing with no mechanism to make it possible.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

 

[tas8831]

Let's see.... taking over blocks of a major city, interfering with all the businesses there, attacking a federal courthouse for months on end, with IEDs, and other objects hurled at police officers.
Hundreds of officers hurt in riots, people killed in riots, billions in property damage in riots. Attacking innocent people, screaming in their faces, threatening business owners if they didn't put BLM signs up .. that's just a little of it.

Let me guess - you think Antifa and BLM attacked the Capitol and that Epstein's pal really won?

 

[tas8831]

No that's a so called scientific theory called. abiogenesis, "or informally the origin of life (OoL) the natural process by which life has supposedly arisen from non-living matter, such as simple organic compounds.

Genesis 2:7, KJV: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

And yet your religion says that 'man' was made not even by organic molecules...

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I never said they were part of the ten commandments but that law in this country was based on the ten commandments.

And I just showed you how that isn't true at all.

You have shown nothing. As usual, all you do is make declarations.

See Washington DC for confirmation.
Moses is featured in a sculpture on the East side of the Supreme Court building.
Moses appears in the House Chamber in the Capitol building.
Moses holding the 10 Commandments in the courtroom of the Supreme Court.

And yet none of them are law, except the 2 obvious ones that would be, and are, law anyway - regardless of any "commandments".

Like it or not religion has played a part in the history of our law and in the history of our country.

And yet none of those 10 are reflected in the actual law.

 

[Tiberius]

Only if one believed star trek were true would it be their religion.

Ah, so believing something to be true makes it a religion.

So the Christian man who believes it to be true that his wife loves him, does he follow to religions?

You're really going to have to give a definitive definition of what "religious belief system" means.

 

[Wildswanderer]

So the Christian man who believes it to be true that his wife loves him, does he follow to religions?

Only if he worships his wife or the idea of her. Many do just that sort of thing. Really for many their religion is sex and beer as far as observation can tell us.

 

[Tiberius]

Only if he worships his wife or the idea of her. Many do just that sort of thing. Really for many their religion is sex and beer as far as observation can tell us.

Ah, so religion requires WORSHIP!

Pray tell, who do atheists worship?

(Would you be interested in having a discussion about this topic in a new thread so we don't continually derail this thread?)

 

[Brian2]

Lust is in human nature. There's nothing wrong with it.

It can become wrong when it goes against love for our neighbour.
Just like freely following our other normal human emotions and feelings with out any self control can lead to wrong actions.

 

[ElishaElijah]

In any way that would actually be evidence to a non-believer?

If a person has no need or desire for God then it wouldn’t, they would scoff at the idea. But other people who are searching for God and haven’t met or known Him yet will be encouraged to know how I found Him and who is He. I found even then when it comes down to surrendering your rights to Jesus Christ is a big problem for people. The rationalizing, justifications all come out at that point. So to your point, what I’ve noticed is all the evidence still wouldn’t be sufficient for some people to believe and if they did believe wouldn’t submit themselves. Some do, some don’t.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Pray tell, who do atheists worship

Probably themselves

 

[ElishaElijah]

Huh?

Exactly, your response is perfect.

 

[ElishaElijah]

It means assisting police in their role as law enforcers by assigning some of their other duties -- duties they're not trained for and don't like -- like mental health or medical intervention, to other departments, making their jobs easier and allowing them to focus on what they were trained to do.

And what was the result of this grand idea? Crime went up

 

[ElishaElijah]

Is your lack of belief in færies, leprechauns or the Flying Spaghetti Monster arrogant?

I’m not an expert in logical fallacies but this has to be one.