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A question to those who question trinity

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Me don't understand either. the OP and title doesn't match.
Oh, I thought it was just me. :D

In that case, I guess we'll just have to wait.
In the meantime, to keep on topic, we can talk about Jesus.

I think Jesus was influenced by Eastern thought. :D
 

te_lanus

Alien Hybrid
I've read that Jesus and Paul spent time with the Essenes. And that Jesus spend three years in India
 

roddio

Member
My apologies I say that you cant seperate God and Jesus but many say that you can so my question is what did Jesus do that God would've done different? God bless
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
God wouldn't die on a piece of wood at the hands of foreign invaders ruling the nation of His covenant after being flagellated and humiliated by the oppresors?
 

roddio

Member
God wouldn't die on a piece of wood at the hands of foreign invaders ruling the nation of His covenant after being flagellated and humiliated by the oppresors?
I disagree. that's called a sacrifice, we were in need of a perfect sacrifice who could fit that bill? God bless
 

Diederick

Active Member
This whole thread is a fallacy. God and Jesus are the same person.

And concerning that "sacrifice", God sacrified himself, to himself. All so we would think he did it for us, but he did it for himself. Simple as that.
 

Demonic Kitten

Active Member
God wouldn't die on a piece of wood at the hands of foreign invaders ruling the nation of His covenant after being flagellated and humiliated by the oppresors?
I have to agree with Odion here. In your post Roddio you stated...
I disagree. that's called a sacrifice, we were in need of a perfect sacrifice who could fit that bill? God bless
...which is understandable. Yes that is called sacrifice, but why would God (any god or goddess for that matter) sacrifice themself when they have so many people willing to do it for them. Or they could send someone to die in their place, like God did with Jesus.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Most Christians believe that Jesus is God. If someone doesn't believe that Jesus is God, then they would say that what Jesus did would be totally separate from what God did.
 

roddio

Member
I have to agree with Odion here. In your post Roddio you stated...

...which is understandable. Yes that is called sacrifice, but why would God (any god or goddess for that matter) sacrifice themself when they have so many people willing to do it for them. Or they could send someone to die in their place, like God did with Jesus.
How many people would die for people who wouldnt appreciate the sacrifice? would you? You see many will say Lord I will die for you but when the time comes to actually doing will change their minds. ( remember Jesus told peter you will deny me three times). God bless
 

roddio

Member
This whole thread is a fallacy. God and Jesus are the same person.

And concerning that "sacrifice", God sacrified himself, to himself. All so we would think he did it for us, but he did it for himself. Simple as that.
why would He do it for Himself? just curious. God bless
 

Demonic Kitten

Active Member
How many people would die for people who wouldnt appreciate the sacrifice? would you? You see many will say Lord I will die for you but when the time comes to actually doing will change their minds. ( remember Jesus told peter you will deny me three times). God bless

Jesus also said (while hanging on the cross) My God. My God. Why have you forsaken me. Even the so called ultimate sacrifice had doubts.

In the societies/religions who use to do human sacrifice the sacrifice thought it was a great honor to sacrifice themselves to appease the gods so that everyone else would be safe. How would that be any different than this...besides the religion that is?
 

roddio

Member
Jesus also said (while hanging on the cross) My God. My God. Why have you forsaken me. Even the so called ultimate sacrifice had doubts.

In the societies/religions who use to do human sacrifice the sacrifice thought it was a great honor to sacrifice themselves to appease the gods so that everyone else would be safe. How would that be any different than this...besides the religion that is?
Jesus never asked to come of the cross because He knew what He was here to do. the difference is that Jesus still lives. God bless
 

Demonic Kitten

Active Member
Roddio,
if i had to guess I would say that you are a Christian, not that there is anything wrong with that because I have great respect for those who have a religion. I have no religion to call my own, but that is because I choose not to. There are too many questions that have gone unanswered for me to be satisfied with any religion. I respect your belief, but if you really want me to believe this....
Jesus never asked to come of the cross because He knew what He was here to do. the difference is that Jesus still lives. God bless
... then please show me proof, and I don't mean out of the bible unless you can back it up with historical facts.

Now to this....
Governments often lie to soldiers. God bless

(I'm going to assume you are American..if not please correct me) I hope you are not saying that the sacrifices of our soldiers for our freedom have been lies. That they have all been lead like a sheep to the slaughter. In everthing there is free will and the power to choose. You choose to believe in what you believe in just as I choose to believe in what I believe in....not to mention the choice that all the soldiers made to save and protect us. I come from a family with a military background so forgive me if I get a little touchy about this.

Actually...it shouldn't matter where you are from because people will always choose to do what they think is right. If there is doubt in choice then there is doubt in belief.
 
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