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A Universe from Nothing?

james bond

james bond

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godnotgod said:
A young Buddhist student, walking along the banks of a river, was looking for a way to cross. Spotting a Buddhist teacher on the other side, he shouts: 'How do I get to the other side?', at which the teacher responds: 'You ARE on the other side!':D
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Ha ha. Spooky action at a distance.

I've heard my comments in the reverend's sermon so did not have a chance to ask questions. Is this on Earth? I think most Christians would say that this would be on Earth in the second life.

In your posts, you did not talk about an afterlife, so I took it to mean in this current life and would believe what you stated even though I may not get a chance to experience it. I would believe you because others back your teachings and statements. It is a priori.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
I think you should go back down your rabbit hole and stop hijacking threads to preach your new-age nonsense/ You are a smoke and mirrors charlatan, just like your hero Chopra.
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I am so happy to hear that you simply adore Deepak Chopra. You're such a clever little Buddhish, wallowing around in those stagnant Hinayanist backwaters. So when are you coming out of Plato's Cave to see the Sun for the very first time, instead of having your brain in lock-step to those dancing cave wall shadows you only think to be reality? :p
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
You are absolutely FULL of "I". And BS.
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Glad to hear you find Alan Watts simply adorable too. So how many years have you been a devotee of Watts and Chopra? BTW, did you ever get those tickets to go visit the Chopra Center, so you might have a chance to rid yourself of your slanted views about him?
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
james bond said:
In your posts, you did not talk about an afterlife, so I took it to mean in this current life and would believe what you stated even though I may not get a chance to experience it.
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There is no afterlife. There is only life here, now. Only your form becomes transformed. Consciousness is always present, and you're experiencing it now, at every moment. In fact, you ARE the experience itself. It is not so much that you are living life, but that life is living you. When this chapter comes to a close, That which is living you will then live itself in another form. That never dies as it is unborn. You are in reality none other than That, thinking yourself to be the current identity you are now playing.
 
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ArtieE

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james bond said:
A person would have to believe that God does not exist and disavow theism.
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That is wrong on so many levels...

1. A person can perfectly well believe that God does not exist but believe that some other god or gods exist and be a theist.

2. The word atheist simply means "not theist" and there is no need to believe anything about the existence of gods to not be a theist.

3. No "disavowing" of theism is required to not be a theist.
 
Rick O'Shez

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
godnotgod said:
You're such a clever little Buddhish, wallowing around in those stagnant Hinayanist backwaters.
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I have experience of many Buddhist schools over a long period of time. You learned some Zen cliches and then converted to Choprism.

So unlike you I have studied the Heart Sutra and done the practice, and I understand what it means. . Unlike you I don't post fake Buddha quotes and I don't deliberately misrepresent Buddhist teachings.

Your references to Buddhism are horrible new-age parodies, and you are not a trustworthy source. Your only concern is to twist authentic teachings in an attempt to prop up your new-age dogma, inspired by your hero, the charlatan Chopra.
 
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james bond

james bond

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ArtieE said:
That is wrong on so many levels...

1. A person can perfectly well believe that God does not exist but believe that some other god or gods exist and be a theist.

2. The word atheist simply means "not theist" and there is no need to believe anything about the existence of gods to not be a theist.

3. No "disavowing" of theism is required to not be a theist.
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Merriam-Webster: "a person who believes that God does not exist"

To the contrary, it is right which makes you wrong. Atheists are usually wrong.

Anyway, I'll be moving on since it's pointless to talk with someone who has trouble understanding the simplest definitions.
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
godnotgod said:
There is no afterlife. There is only life here, now. Only your form becomes transformed. Consciousness is always present, and you're experiencing it now, at every moment. In fact, you ARE the experience itself. It is not so much that you are living life, but that life is living you. When this chapter comes to a close, That which is living you will then live itself in another form. That never dies as it is unborn. You are in reality none other than That, thinking yourself to be the current identity you are now playing.
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I can't agree with that. Life is short. Screw that which is living me. I am the one in control, so I am living life and that which is living me can go f_themselves. Let them go get their own form or else die ha ha.

Somehow the Buddhism that I've learned through the reverend, my gf and the Dalai Lama's book, sounds more worthwhile than what you just stated. I rather take refuge there. Good day sir.
 
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ArtieE

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james bond said:
Merriam-Webster: "a person who believes that God does not exist"

To the contrary, it is right which makes you wrong. Atheists are usually wrong.

Anyway, I'll be moving on since it's pointless to talk with someone who has trouble understanding the simplest definitions.
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There's a big difference between quoting wrong dictionary definitions and actually understanding what atheism is.

"Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God." Some dictionaries even go so far as to define Atheism as "wickedness," "sinfulness," and other derogatory adjectives. Clearly, theistic influence taints dictionaries. People cannot trust these dictionaries to define atheism. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as "there is no God" betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read "there are no gods."
https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/what-is-atheism
 
james bond

james bond

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Rick O'Shez said:
In Buddhism nirvana is a living experience, being fully awake.
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Ok, so there is no afterlife? I suppose the reverend in his sermon getting to the other shore meant raising our consciousness. He always focuses on the now and understanding the different levels of consciousness.

And what about karma? It does not mean some form of justice? What happens if a person is bad most of his life and does not pay for their crimes?
 
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