A woman's rage

[Shadow Wolf]

There is a persistent theme here that men need not fear false
accusations or rape itself because of the rarity of it (false though
that claim is).

No one has said men don't need to be afraid of being raped. The point is men don't need to be afraid of false accusations that they raped or sexually harassed someone. The rarity of such a thing is about on par with a guy dressing as a woman to assault women in the women's restroom.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Then this might apply to 80% of women....

Sexual harassment (the focus of the OP) includes more than just rape.

 

[Revoltingest]

No one has said men don't need to be afraid of being raped. The point is men don't need to be afraid of false accusations that they raped or sexually harassed someone. The rarity of such a thing is about on par with a guy dressing as a woman to assault women in the women's restroom.

The claim of "rarity" simply isn't supported by careful examination of statistics.
But regarding that having-no-fear about false accusations, tell that to those
Duke lacrosse players. But there's more.....my maintenance guys have been
regularly flashed by female tenants (apparently a problem with university
students), & the fear that this could balloon to greater harassment is reasonable.
And yes, I consider flashing them to be sexual harassment.

You won't convince me to be sanguine about such risks posed in the workplace,
even if the risk is supposed to be statistically unlikely. I did have a false accusation
of a sexual nature leveled against me once. Did it ever happen to you?

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Yeah, except that isn't happening. False accusations of rape are rare. Rape, however, is not.

It only takes one to ruin an innocent man's life. And maybe it is not rape but just touching. A man has no protection from false accusations of things that might or might not have happened years ago.

 

[Revoltingest]

It only takes one to ruin an innocent man's life. And maybe it is not rape but just touching. A man has no protection from false accusations of things that might or might not have happened years ago.

The legal presumption of innocence offers some protection.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It only takes one to ruin an innocent man's life. And maybe it is not rape but just touching. A man has no protection from false accusations of things that might or might not have happened years ago.

An accusation is not the same thing as being found guilty.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Did it ever happen to you?

No.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

The legal presumption of innocence offers some protection.

Really? Do you think the new Supreme Court justice was presummed innocent? Many thousands of people decided he was guilty without a trial or hearing all the evidence.

 

[Revoltingest]

No.

This experience thing can happen to anyone, eh.
Let's hope you never join the club.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

An accusation is not the same thing as being found guilty.

But it can completely destroy a man's life.

 

[Revoltingest]

Really? Do you think the new Supreme Court justice was presummed innocent? Many thousands of people decided he was guilty without a trial or hearing all the evidence.

Many people did rush to judgment.
But looking at the vote to confirm, it split largely along party lines,
which is the result I'd have expected if no accusations arose.

Btw....
A pox on those who claimed certainty that either Ford or
Kavanaugh lied.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Many people did rush to judgment.
But looking at the vote to confirm, it split largely along party lines,
which is the result I'd have expected if no accusations arose.

Btw....
A pox on those who claimed certainty that either Ford or
Kavanaugh lied.

Don't you think his life was affected by this accusation that had no proof. And what about the average man on the street? He would not have the resources to fight a false claim.

 

[Revoltingest]

Don't you think his life was affected by this accusation that had no proof. And what about the average man on the street? He would not have the resources to fight a false claim.

I don't know whether K did to F what she claimed.
Looking at things that way, I don't know which had his/her life unfairly damaged.
And it could very well be memories allow both to be truthful.
Such things will inexorably be unfair to innocent parties.

 

[ChristineM]

It is in the article. If the author didn't want to involve politics the author should have limited the subjects. Hence I commented on projection and the hysteria seen during Ford/Kav hearing and it's results. Believe Ford became Believe Women thus a projection from individual to collective or group. Heck now Dems are going use the Ford/Kav hearing for mid-terms by feeding off the hysteria and projection for votes.

That is how american politics works, both ways.

Personally, im not american and dont give a hoot for the backstabbing and griping that people vote for or against. I vote for whoever i consider best at the job and for my country

What i do care about is spreading understand about abuse if the kav/ford thing does that then cool

 

[ChristineM]

And the OP thought wrong, as pointed out twice.

Your hypothetical little guy with sore nuts was quite specific about what his reaction would be if he was aware of a rape.

 

[Stevicus]

Your hypothetical little guy with sore nuts was quite specific about what his reaction would be if he was aware of a rape.

 

[Estro Felino]

I don't know whether K did to F what she claimed.
Looking at things that way, I don't know which had his/her life unfairly damaged.
And it could very well be memories allow both to be truthful.
Such things will inexorably be unfair to innocent parties.

Danish woman in jail for defamation.
Woman jailed for falsely accusing teenager of raping her in toilets | Metro News

IN SPITE of all those people who claim that women never lie about rape

 

[Estro Felino]

Sexual harassment (the focus of the OP) includes more than just rape.

Sexual harassment is a word that is abused nowadays.
Many females have sexually harassed me in my life, not respecting my sexuality. I slapped a girl who tried to kiss me once.
I never played the victim though

 

[ChristineM]

Sexual harassment is a word that is abused nowadays.
Many females have sexually harassed me in my life, not respecting my sexuality. I slapped a girl who tried to kiss me once.
I never played the victim though

But never did a thing when your sister was sexually harassed

Self serving hypocrisy comes to mind.

 

[ChristineM]

Danish woman in jail for defamation.
Woman jailed for falsely accusing teenager of raping her in toilets | Metro News

IN SPITE of all those people who claim that women never lie about rape

Which people are they, do you have citation?