About fossils -- would you say this is true?

[Astrophile]

The Bible hasn’t been disproved by anyone anywhere.

There were different languages long before the building of the tower of Babel. There is no evidence of the sojourn of the Hebrews in Egypt, the ten plagues of Egypt, the Exodus and the forty years in the wilderness, Balaam's talking donkey, the conquest of the promised land, the empire of David and Solomon, or the dead man who came back to life after being thrown into Elisha's grave.

The whole of the New Testament repeatedly asserts that its writers were living in the last days and that the end of the world and the return of Jesus were imminent, but more than 1900 years have passed since it was written. Is this sufficient disproof for you?

 

[Apostle John]

There were different languages long before the building of the tower of Babel. There is no evidence of the sojourn of the Hebrews in Egypt, the ten plagues of Egypt, the Exodus and the forty years in the wilderness, Balaam's talking donkey, the conquest of the promised land, the empire of David and Solomon, or the dead man who came back to life after being thrown into Elisha's grave.

The whole of the New Testament repeatedly asserts that its writers were living in the last days and that the end of the world and the return of Jesus were imminent, but more than 1900 years have passed since it was written. Is this sufficient disproof for you?

That’s more wishful thinking. Assertions, not proof of anything to the contrary. You haven’t experienced the supernatural have you? Good luck.

 

[Astrophile]

God made the planets and orbits.

That's sheer guesswork dressed up as fact.

Prof. Brian Cox said no human knows how the earth ended up in the Goldilocks zone in his recent tv series “The Planets”. He said it’s a mystery.

With eight planets in the solar system one of them was likely to end up in the Goldilocks zone. With about 200 billion stars in the Galaxy, most of which probably have planets, some stars are bound to have at least one planet in the Goldilocks zone. With about two trillion galaxies in the observable universe, millions of galaxies are likely to have stars with at least one planet in the Goldilocks zone. The Earth is not unique.

 

[Apostle John]

That's sheer guesswork dressed up as fact.

With eight planets in the solar system one of them was likely to end up in the Goldilocks zone. With about 200 billion stars in the Galaxy, most of which probably have planets, some stars are bound to have at least one planet in the Goldilocks zone. With about two trillion galaxies in the observable universe, millions of galaxies are likely to have stars with at least one planet in the Goldilocks zone. The Earth is not unique.

It’s recorded in the Bible. At least one was likely to end up in the G. Zone? Your obviously thinking ‘fancifully’.

That‘s enough from me today. Good luck

 

[Audie]

That’s more wishful thinking. Assertions, not proof of anything to the contrary. You haven’t experienced the supernatural have you? Good luck.

Nobody has. But many lie,
to themselves.
Some few lie to others, and
start new religions.

Amusing that you now find
statements in the NT are
mere assertions. And
Wishful Thinking!!

Have you stumbled onto
something??

 

[Astrophile]

what I have found from reviewing the opinions here is that (1) scientists have been wrong, changing their held opinions, (2) soil shifts, thus (3) dating of soil considered evidence may not be that at all, and last but not least thanks to you all here in favor of the theory of evolution as t-r-u-t-h is that (4) fossils leached with soil sediment turning to rock does not reflect the bone at all in terms of dating. So thanks.

How many times have you been told that soil, sedimentary rocks and fossils cannot be dated directly? Igneous rocks, including lavas and volcanic ash beds, can be dated by radiometric methods, and sedimentary rocks interstratified between the igneous rocks can be dated indirectly by interpolation between the ages of the igneous rocks. Also, remnants of living things that are old enough to be called fossils are found in sedimentary rocks, not in unconsolidated modern soils.

 

[wandering peacefully]

I did look. But sands or soil shifts anyway in a flood situation. And lava is rather old I would also say.

Are you confusing acient sea beds with a global flood? The middle of the North American continent was in fact an ancient sea bed at one time. When it dried out, it left the layers of sediments exposed. Over time, rivers have carved through the land exposing even more layers of what used to be a sea floor. With the case of Burgess Shale beds in Alberta where fossils are found at the tops of the mountain, it is because of continental drift which pushed the ancient sea bed up high where the fossils are now found. Is it because of these exposed layers and eroded layers that you believe in a world flood? In a sense the land was flooded. But not because of a God, it was just the natural processes of earth formation and continental drifts. Not all lands were under water. They may have been under 2 miles of ice at one point from glaciers and receding glaciers also carved out land formations which we see now in the form of lakes and valleys but that does not mean all of those areas were ancient sea beds or were raised up by colliding continents. If I dug down deep in my backyard, I would not find marine fossils because my particular area was never an ancient sea bed.

 

[Astrophile]

It’s recorded in the Bible. At least one was likely to end up in the G. Zone? You're obviously thinking ‘fancifully’.

That‘s enough from me today. Good luck

None of the planets are mentioned in the Bible. According to the Bible, the Earth is flat and the Sun, Moon and stars move across the sky or firmament. The concept of a Goldilocks zone is completely foreign to the thinking of the writers of the Bible.

 

[Astrophile]

OK -- just as a reminder, here is what Jesus is recorded to have said: "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be." Many people now think we are in the "last days." Even those that do not understand the Bible yet. (Matthew 24:36)

People have been thinking for more than 2000 years that we are in the last days. The author of the book of Daniel, writing at the time of the Maccabean Rebellion (ca. 164 BC) thought that he was living in the last days.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Yes, I don’t mind being known as a creationist. The evolution theory about us coming from mud then monkeys involves so much change it’s difficult to believe.

Combo-points for managing 2 fallacies in a single sentence (incredulity and strawman).
Good job.

You and anyone can only assume and guess what it was like back then. That is an irrefutable fact the sane minded can agree on.

No. The past can be tested by investigating the evidence it left behind in the present.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I was giving you something easy to think about first. Our solar system is not a centrifuge. How therefore did our sun form first. How did the earth end up in the Goldilocks zone (it’s orbit so that life can exist).

The same way every other star in the universe formed and every other planet finding itself in a goldilocks zone.
Are you aware that eventhough we only pretty much investigated the equivalent of a pixel in the night sky, we've found plenty of rocky planets orbitting in such a zone?

The earth really isn't special in that sense.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

that humans have come from mud then monkeys, you accept that as a fact even though it hasn’t been tested and proven beyond doubt.

False. Ignoring the silly "mud" strawman, it is a genetic fact that humans and monkeys (and mammals, and etc) share a common ancestor.

Ignorance is not an argument against it. Neither is denial.

Evolution theory is a stark example of non-uniformity.

No.

You are both trying to say you believe in uniformity. Do you see you’re argument is schizophrenic?

No. All I see is you arguing from obscene ignorance and strawmen.

 

[Astrophile]

Like dating stars by rocks and then rocks by stars. Fuzzy logic.

Igneous rocks are dated by the decay of the radioactive elements that they contain; they are not dated by stars. To simplify a complex matter, stars are dated by their being members of star clusters and by the time required for them to exhaust hydrogen in their cores and to turn into red giants or supergiants.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I am not a scientist.

Really????

Could have fooled me!!

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I’m sorry, I need facts when secular science discusses creation. It’s all guesswork and assumption atm., I suspect forever. Actually, I know they won’t make progress.

So, was your internet capable device and all other tech required for you to post that BS "prayed" into existence?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I don’t really pay much attention to theories about creation

Maybe, just maybe, you should pay at least a little attention before you start trying to argue against them.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It’s recorded in the Bible. At least one was likely to end up in the G. Zone? Your obviously thinking ‘fancifully’.

That‘s enough from me today. Good luck

How Many Habitable Planets are Out There?

October 29, 2020, Mountain View, CA – Thanks to new research using data from the Kepler space telescope, it’s estimated that there could be as many as 300 million potentially habitable planets in our galaxy. Some could even be pretty close, with several likely within 30 light-years of our Sun...

www.seti.org

The Kepler mission, which officially ceased collecting data in 2018, has identified over 2,800 confirmed exoplanets, with several thousand more candidates waiting to be confirmed. So far, researchers have identified several hundred planets in the habitable zone of their star in Kepler data.


Just FYI. Apparently you aren't at all aware that it's not exactly rare.
Planets that form around a star are going to have a certain distance from that star. Plenty of them are bound to be at a distance that allows for liquid water to exist.
Why you think this is so extra-ordinary is a mystery to me.

 

[Astrophile]

I can only guess that you and the scientists figure the rocks or sediment within the ice gives the age of? -- as if there were no shifting of soil before the ice was formed?

No. There are distinct annual layers in the ice cores, which can be counted to give the age of individual layers. Variations from layer to layer in the concentration of the isotope oxygen-18 indicate the temperature at the time the layer was formed and therefore provide a calibrated history of climate variation over hundreds of thousands of years. The ice itself is derived from snowfall, so it does not contain rocks or other sedimentary material.

 

[Mock Turtle]

The theory of evolution by natural selection was conceived independently by Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace in the mid-19th century and was set out in detail in Darwin's book On the Origin of Species.
Darwin could have only speculated the origin of life couldn’t he?

You equate 'life' with 'species' - which the latter is only what Darwin tried to explain - as to the mechanisms? Not being very truthful are you?

 

[Apostle John]

The same way every other star in the universe formed and every other planet finding itself in a goldilocks zone.
Are you aware that eventhough we only pretty much investigated the equivalent of a pixel in the night sky, we've found plenty of rocky planets orbitting in such a zone?

The earth really isn't special in that sense.

I’ll only respond to this bc I get an avalanche of unsubstantiated theory. Stars and ‘planets’ outside of our solar system are just light not atoms. That’s not theory but Biblical fact. You only have an optical illusion to support your theories of the stars, no tangible evidence.