Accept your Muslim Immigrants!

[psychoslice]

I love all people, but sometimes its hard to except people who are against my beliefs, and try to push their beliefs onto me, especially in my own country, no, I cannot support that in any way what so ever.

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

I know several Muslim to Christian converts, none actually wore the hijab though so they couldn't stop wearing it.



I'm not sure they 'moved away' from it, more likely they never had it in the first place. US Muslims tend to be middle/upper middle class whereas the majority of European Muslims are working class and were wanted to provide cheap labour.

are you saying that there are tons of european male immigrants into muslim countries who come together with muslim girls and the muslim girls ´leave islam as a result and become westernized? are you saying that there are comparable number of percetange ranging from 15 to 25 % of european immigrants in muslim countries?

 

[psychoslice]

What is it with you people that you have to turn every damn discussion of Hitler about his religious beliefs? Holy crap.

This is literally worse than the HISTORY Channel.

Ohhh, a sensitive spot here.

 

[Augustus]

are you saying that there are tons of european male immigrants into muslim countries who come together with muslim girls and the muslim girls ´leave islam as a result and become westernized? are you saying that there are comparable number of percetange ranging from 15 to 25 % of european immigrants in muslim countries?

Depends on the country you are talking about. The Gulf is obviously very different to South East Asia.

In some places that % will be much higher than 15-25%. Many people in Muslim majority countries are pretty 'Westernised' as it is.

Men all over the world play the "They come over her, they take our women" card, it's not unique to Westerners. Happens in the Muslim world too.

Women are nobody's property though. If they want to date an 'immigrant' then why should you care?

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Depends on the country you are talking about. The Gulf is obviously very different to South East Asia.

In some places that % will be much higher than 15-25%. Many people in Muslim majority countries are pretty 'Westernised' as it is.

Men all over the world play the "They come over her, they take our women" card, it's not unique to Westerners. Happens in the Muslim world too.

Women are nobody's property though. If they want to date an 'immigrant' then why should you care?

Okay give me one country in the middle east or any muslim country where european immigrants make up 15-25% of the population. are you going to say UAE? UAE is a little piece of country that invites successful engineers and architects to come over because of the large amounts of money. this has nothing to do with immigration and most of these european men come either with a european woman or an european girlfriend to begin with. You will see no where in the middle east where 20% of immigrant europeans guys are going to date with muslimas. this is non existant. immigration is only a huge problem in europe and USA and these countries already have a very low birth rate meaning that if these foreigners come in and take the rest of the women already the west will ethnically die out as a result. No joke on this entire planet there has never been a similar situation, of millions of immigrants (mostly male, sometimes with family), as we have it today.

And the problem is not that the women are somebodies property even though the state treats them as property and encourages interracial relationships and promotes it. You see in the movies black men with white women or on leaflets here where i live where women are told 'embrace diversity' and a girl is portrayed mixing different colors as if the german culture is monotonous and grey and only africans and middle easterners can enrich her and give color to her life. Its absolutely insane and no where in the world will you see such a thing apart from the west. i lived in a different country throughout my childhood and there people were absolutely racist and all outsiders werent welcome, i couldnt ever imagine some organizations to publish leaflets to enrich the nation by africans or turks or arabs... this would be ridiculed and protested against.

 

[Lyndon]

So you're an immigrant???

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

So you're an immigrant???

my father was german. he and his german family lived in a sort of german 'enclave' there and my mother is primerely polish. they got together because all of the 'enemies of the state' were sent to these enclaves or gulags and so both their families met eachother.


They later were invited to come over to germany by the german state in the 90's they first refused. Then a second time they were offered to live in germany and they accepted.

 

[Quetzal]

Actually Hispanic culture is much more in line with American culture than Islamic culture is in line with European.

1) Hispanics speak a European language and can transition to English much faster
2) Large hispanic population area have been a part of America for centuries, and were part of Mexico before that. American culture has had hispanic influence for a long time.
3) Hispanics are Roman Catholic, just like Italians, Irish, Poles, etc. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics go to mixed catholic churches. America still has a majority practicing and cultural Christian population, while Islamic and European values are two opposite ends of a spectrum.
4) America is a land of immigrants, and quite frankly one can argue that since many Hispanics are part amerindian, we are the outsiders and they are the originals.
5) There's a big difference between immigrants, refugees and illegal aliens.

Despite the differences you have outlined, there is still one fundamental principle that remains the same. In both cases there are large groups of people who believe that lives of these people are not worth as much based on their background. Further, they do not believe there is any room for them, they cannot be integrated, and they are (somehow) inherently dangerous. All of it is a lazy, blanket statement to support a biased and prejudiced train of thought. I have news for you, if you are trying to jump on the "They are different and don't belong here" bandwagon, it is full and you will have to wait for the next one.

 

[MARCELLO]

Does the integration of muslims mean they stop wearing islamic clothes? I feel yes.

 

[Quetzal]

Does the integration of muslims mean they stop wearing islamic clothes? I feel yes.

It would only be fair if Christians stopped wearing crucifixes and atheists stopped putting those Darwin fishes on the back of their car. Why are the Islamic garbs such a sticking point?

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Now this might be a small issue compared to the leaflet i saw but you get the vibe of how weird this society has become by promoting interracial relationships.

 

[Quetzal]

Now this might be a small issue compared to the leaflet i saw but you get the vibe of how weird this society has become by promoting interracial relationships.

Question! Who do you think is the biggest racist on this thread? Follow up question, why is it you?

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Question! Who do you think is the biggest racist on this thread? Follow up question, why is it you?

Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of native american people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of black people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of asian people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of european people? Yes

 

[Quetzal]

Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of native american people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of black people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of asian people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of european people? Yes

Yes, and what rights have been violated in regards to the European people that you stand for? These VERY same arguments were/are used against the civil rights, womens rights, and LGBT rights. It is all bigoted nonsense.

 

[MARCELLO]

Yes, and what rights have been violated in regards to the European people that you stand for? These VERY same arguments were/are used against the civil rights, womens rights, and LGBT rights. It is all bigoted nonsense.

Yes ,really how do you stand for european values?

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Yes, and what rights have been violated in regards to the European people that you stand for? These VERY same arguments were/are used against the civil rights, womens rights, and LGBT rights. It is all bigoted nonsense.

The right to have the choice of having your children or gandchildren look like you. It is not possible when you are constantly bombarded with interracial promotion, this especially has a great impact on young kids and youths and they grow up thinking its good to 'race-mix'. infact your original culture becomes 'dull' and 'grey' while internationality is 'colorful' and 'fun'. This to me is the real racism that exists in the world, how can you discriminate against the native people in this manner and label them 'dull', 'grey' or unimaginative? Seriously i dont understand you people. You yourself would probably never live in a neighborhood of immigrants or even date african or middle eastern females. Why the heck are you then promoting it to the rest of the western world?

 

[Nietzsche]

The right to have the choice of having your children or gandchildren look like you. It is not possible when you are constantly bombarded with interracial promotion, this especially has a great impact on young kids and youths and they grow up thinking its good to 'race-mix'. infact your original culture becomes 'dull' and 'grey' while internationality is 'colorful' and 'fun'. This to me is the real racism that exists in the world, how can you discriminate against the native people in this manner and label them 'dull', 'grey' or unimaginative? Seriously i dont understand you people. You yourself would probably never live in a neighborhood of immigrants or even date african or middle eastern females. Why the heck are you then promoting it to the rest of the western world?

Oh wow. An actual racist. This is amazing.

 

[Quetzal]

The right to have the choice of having your children or gandchildren look like you. It is not possible when you are constantly bombarded with interracial promotion, this especially has a great impact on young kids and youths and they grow up thinking its good to 'race-mix'. infact your original culture becomes 'dull' and 'grey' while internationality is 'colorful' and 'fun'. This to me is the real racism that exists in the world, how can you discriminate against the native people in this manner and label them 'dull', 'grey' or unimaginative? Seriously i dont understand you people. You yourself would probably never live in a neighborhood of immigrants or even date african or middle eastern females. Why the heck are you then promoting it to the rest of the western world?

It is shocking to me that people like you actually still exist. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Oh wow. An actual racist. This is amazing.

What is your definition of 'racist'?

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

It is shocking to me that people like you actually still exist. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

What do you think? I bet you cant guess my age.