Accept your Muslim Immigrants!

[Debater Slayer]

And if I don't understand, what makes you the authority in this subject considering the trite comment? Rather overly confident of you to make assumptuous statements without further basis, IMO.

Mind basing more on this or am I just going to assume what you fully mean?

Let's see:

The "Six Country Immigrant Integration Comparative Survey"—a five-year study of Moroccan and Turkish immigrants in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Holland and Sweden—was published on December 11 by the WZB Berlin Social Science Center, one of the largest social science research institutes in Europe.

According to the study (German and English), which was funded by the German government, two thirds (65%) of the Muslims interviewed say Islamic Sharia law is more important to them than the laws of the country in which they live.

Source.

• Muslims who believe that "foreign Muslims who incite hatred should be … allowed to live in the UK": 38 percent.
• Who agree that "ordinary Muslims … should not do more work with the police to root out extremists from the Muslim community": 8 percent.
• Find it acceptable "for religious or political groups to use violence for political ends": 4 percent.
• Support the July 7 attacks and say more such attacks are justified: 5 percent.

Source.

OTTAWA - A newly released survey suggests a large number of Muslims living in Canada will not disown Al-Qaida.

The study, conducted by the MacDonald Laurier Institute, found 65% of Muslims questioned said they would “repudiate absolutely” the terrorist organization, while 35% would not do so.

Source.

Forty-five percent say 9/11 was a conspiracy by the American and Israeli governments. This figure is more than twice as high as those who say it was not a conspiracy. Tragically, almost one in four British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were justified because of British support for the U.S.-led war on terror.

When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, "Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws."

Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year's Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it.

The news is no less alarming on the question of freedom of speech. Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam." When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.

Source.

But younger Muslims are more likely to be "westernized," aren't they?

The higher levels of support for suicide bombing seen among young American Muslims resembles patterns found among Muslims in Europe, where Muslims also constitute a minority population. In Great Britain, France and Germany, Muslims under the age of 30 are consistently the least likely to say that suicide bombing is never justified. In other words, the share who think suicide bombing against civilians can ever be justified, even if rarely, is higher among those younger than 30 compared with those who are older. About a quarter (26%) of younger U.S. Muslims say suicide bombing can at least rarely be justified, 17 percentage points higher than the proportion of Muslims ages 30 and older (9%) who share that view.

Source.

Just one of these studies is enough to paint a disgraceful picture of the current state of Islamic extremism around the world, yet we have more than one. Let's say two or three out of these were false (and you would have to provide solid evidence that the research behind them wasn't sound). You would still be left with three or two studies that absolutely crush the argument that Muslims who live in Western countries are usually so willing to be "westernized" because they live in free countries.

 

[MARCELLO]

It would only be fair if Christians stopped wearing crucifixes and atheists stopped putting those Darwin fishes on the back of their car. Why are the Islamic garbs such a sticking point?

It is not the same thing although I know it is wrong to criticize people for what they wear but I do not like traditional clothes same for zynius and saris.

Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of native american people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of black people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of asian people? No
Is it racist to stand for the rights and preservation of european people? Yes

how can you discriminate against the native people in this manner and label them 'dull', 'grey' or unimaginative? Seriously i dont understand you people. You yourself would probably never live in a neighborhood of immigrants or even date african or middle eastern females. Why the heck are you then promoting it to the rest of the western world?

Are you european? If pachabel means nothing for you,if you don't spread your butter with a butter knife or if you serve your salads in a plastic bowl on the table,if your bathroom smells ,I am sorry you are not .Europe means civilization ,have you ever asked yourself are you civilized?

 

[MARCELLO]

What is your definition of 'racist'?

Re read your own messages I am sure they will let you how to define racism.

 

[Flankerl]

Ohhh, a sensitive spot here.

Check out any topic about Nationalsocialism or Hitler. It somehow always goes towards his religious belief as if that is in any way important.

Yeah its kinda annoying.

We have immigration policies just as any other nation might have. Any sovereign nation is free to choose who they let into their countries. If you do not agree with yours, lobby for it to be changed.

Seems you have to read up on various EU laws or at least get yourself an overview of the current crisis.

One could argue that our Hispanic population also fits into this. If you are suggesting more restrictions to keep those you don't think are worth it out, that is on you. But I will go on the record to say it is a very selfish view.

All people are selfish. Why should I be different?

And to compare the Hispanics in the US with the Turks and Arabs in the EU is kinda cute.

Why not?

While I understand they are important and am genuinely happy that they exist I enjoy Hospitals more when I am not a patient there.

You are using a lot of confirmation bias here. What if the German government decided to have you removed back to Austria under the reasoning that an Austrian community rioted on the other side of the country. That wouldn't be fair to you, you had nothing to do with that. That wasn't your fault, right? Many immigrants moving around in and to Europe are migrating for a reason and for you to deny them and say their reasoning is invalid on the grounds that previous immigrants acted in a certain way is unacceptable.

Well I saw how they acted on the border to Hungary. I also haven't forgotten the news of how those in the boats threw the Christian refugees overboard.

Oh and I remember the stuff that has already happened in German refugee shelters. But hey I bet its all going to work out.
Good for you that you don't have to live here and live with the result.

Ruhrpott?

Yes but I am not going to pin point it further.

whereas the majority of European Muslims are working class and were wanted to provide cheap labour.

That's actually a little bit false.
Back in the 1960s Turkey had simply way too many people. So the USA "lobbied" in certain NATO countries that they should take in some guest workers.
Was a way to help the new NATO BFF to dump its uneducated masses somewhere else.

This is why its always cute when Turks in Germany claim that they build up the country while in reality they arrived when that was already done.

 

[Lyndon]

What do you think? I bet you cant guess my age.

12???

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Higher the better so we don't have to tolerate your existence any longer than we have to. Seriously, your thought process and how you approach the world is dangerous.

Hahaha im not 25 yet so you will have to bear with me perhaps for a long long time. But funny how you want me dead just for telling plain reality. Or are you against the desire to have your children resemble yourself in appearance? do you think its selfish? would you prefer your children/grandchildren to be as unlike you as possible?

 

[Quetzal]

Check out any topic about Nationalsocialism or Hitler. It somehow always goes towards his religious belief as if that is in any way important.

Yeah its kinda annoying.





Seems you have to read up on various EU laws or at least get yourself an overview of the current crisis.




All people are selfish. Why should I be different?

And to compare the Hispanics in the US with the Turks and Arabs in the EU is kinda cute.




While I understand they are important and am genuinely happy that they exist I enjoy Hospitals more when I am not a patient there.




Well I saw how they acted on the border to Hungary. I also haven't forgotten the news of how those in the boats threw the Christian refugees overboard.

Oh and I remember the stuff that has already happened in German refugee shelters. But hey I bet its all going to work out.
Good for you that you don't have to live here and live with the result.





Yes but I am not going to pin point it further.





That's actually a little bit false.
Back in the 1960s Turkey had simply way too many people. So the USA "lobbied" in certain NATO countries that they should take in some guest workers.
Was a way to help the new NATO BFF to dump its uneducated masses somewhere else.

This is why its always cute when Turks in Germany claim that they build up the country while in reality they arrived when that was already done.

Whatever you need to give your prejudice validity, go for it... I guess.

 

[MARCELLO]

Higher the better so we don't have to tolerate your existence any longer than we have to. Seriously, your thought process and how you approach the world is dangerous.

He is not dangerous,just a simple racist,they are no more valued on this planet,infact they are outlawed.

 

[Quetzal]

Hahaha im not 25 yet...

That's a shame.

 

[Nietzsche]

What is your definition of 'racist'?

Anyone who still holds to the long-abandoned notion that groups of people can be classified beyond superficially through "race". There are more differences between you and myself as individuals than there are between all racial phenotypes on the planet. Those genes are only useful in regards to tracking human migration.

 

[Quetzal]

 

[MARCELLO]

Hahaha im not 25 yet so you will have to bear with me perhaps for a long long time. But funny how you want me dead just for telling plain reality. Or are you against the desire to have your children resemble yourself in appearance? do you think its selfish? would you prefer your children/grandchildren to be as unlike you as possible?

It is not you but your kids to decide what to marry.

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Anyone who still holds to the long-abandoned notion that groups of people can be classified beyond superficially through "race". There are more differences between you and myself as individuals than there are between all racial phenotypes on the planet. Those genes are only useful in regards to tracking human migration.

How do you explain that all of the 100 meter sprinters, who win olympic medals, are predominately africans? It doesnt matter that we are different individuals what matters is that we can seperate mankind into races not only appearance but even how we behave and how deep our voices are how well we perform mentally or physically. this is all based on averages so ofcourse there are exceptions to any rule but overall we can identify ourselves by race because its scientific. just like sexes are scientific. if somebody commits a murder and you have a stain of blood from the murderer on the crime scene the policemen can identify the RACE of the murderer by 99% accuracy. do you want to abolish this scientific endeavour because its racist? so you would let a murderer make his nasty deeds without identifying what he looks like because that may be racist?

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

It is not you but your kids to decide what to marry.

i wouldnt want them to marry an animal. i wouldnt want them to marry a car. why not give them approval and advice on who their partners should be?

 

[MARCELLO]

i wouldnt want them to marry an animal. i wouldnt want them to marry a car. why not give them approval and advice on who their partners should be?

I will report this,certainly you cannot call non whites animals.

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

I will report this,certainly you cannot call non whites animals.

What? I was speaking of literal animals. I wouldnt want my son or daugther to marry a goat or chicken....

 

[Nietzsche]

How do you explain that all of the 100 meter sprinters, who win olympic medals, are predominately africans?

And? Using this logic, there should be no white people who've won Olympic Gold for sprinting. But they exist. There are plenty. You want to argue that Jews are somehow inherently more intelligent because there are a disproportionate number of them with Nobel Prizes?

It doesnt matter that we are different individuals what matters is that we can seperate mankind into races because, not only appearance but even how we behave and how deep our voices are how well we perform mentally or physically. this is all based on averages so ofcourse there are exceptions to any rule but overall we can identify ourselves by race because its scientific. just like sexes are scientific. if somebody commits a murder and you have a stain of blood from the murderer on the crime scene the policemen can identify the RACE of the murderer by 99% accuracy. do you want to abolish this scientific endeavour because its racist? so you would let a murderer make his nasty deeds without identifying what he looks like because that may be racist?

Being able to tell someone has a high or low melanin count isn't racist, nor is it using race as anything but a superficial quality. The superficial qualities are what you look for to separate possible suspects. It's no different than singling or ruling me out because I'm a tall guy with nice clothes, a pronounced limp and long hair.

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

And? Using this logic, there should be no white people who've won Olympic Gold for sprinting. But they exist. There are plenty. You want to argue that Jews are somehow inherently more intelligent because there are a disproportionate number of them with Nobel Prizes?


Being able to tell someone has a high or low melanin count isn't racist, nor is it using race as anything but a superficial quality. The superficial qualities are what you look for to separate possible suspects. It's no different than singling or ruling me out because I'm a tall guy with nice clothes, a pronounced limp and long hair.

No. That logic doesnt lead us to say that there are no white medal winners but that they are dominated by africans. Because africans are better at running - on average. They are also better at gaining muscle when doing weight lifting. Its genetical. As i said there are always exceptions to the rule but on average you get these generic racial overtones.

 

[MARCELLO]

No. That logic doesnt lead us to say that there are no white medal winners but that they are dominated by africans. Because africans are better at running - on average. They are also better at gaining muscle when doing weight lifting. Its genetical. As i said there are always exceptions to the rule but on average you get these generic racial overtones.

Try stormfront rather then this forum. Ohh just a minute, they may not accept you because you are mixed with polish

 

[Nietzsche]

No. That logic doesnt lead us to say that there are no white medal winners but that they are dominated by africans. Because africans are better at running - on average. They are also better at gaining muscle when doing weight lifting. Its genetical. As i said there are always exceptions to the rule but on average you get these generic racial overtones.

Is that so? Why are the over-whelming majority of strongman winners Scandinavian or Baltic, then?