Adam & Eve sitting in a tree....

[Thief]

So if 'soul' is everywhere, then it is not finite, and cannot be encapsulated as an individual soul called 'I'.

have you a soul?......or not

 

[Aiviu]

and I also say.....no one in the garden lied
not God
not the serpent

i never said someone in the garden lied ... you're not even close to understand what i wrote. Anyways, its your misrepresentation, not mine.

 

[godnotgod]

have you a soul?......or not

No, and neither do you.

There is a big difference between 'having a soul', and 'having soul'.

 

[wicketkeeper]

The serpent seed doctrine?
Serpent seed, dual seed or two-seedline is a controversial religious belief which explains the biblical account of the fall of man by saying that the serpent in the Garden of Eden mated with Eve, and that the offspring of their union was Cain.

The serpent was Lucifer who had his wicked way with Eve ! Yes there is controversy surrounding the two seedline account. Anyway Cain was fathered by Lucifer.

 

[Thief]

No, and neither do you.

There is a big difference between 'having a soul', and 'having soul'.

start a thread on that......

oh yeah....

 

[Thief]

i never said someone in the garden lied ... you're not even close to understand what i wrote. Anyways, its your misrepresentation, not mine.

pray tell.....the mis-representation

 

[Willamena]

If all perspectives are not welcome then i limit my ability to grow.

There's growing, and then there's feeding your own ignorance so that it grows.

Surely the interpretation of the people closest to the author(s) of the story would have the most significant insight?

 

[Thief]

There's growing, and then there's feeding your own ignorance so that it grows.

Surely the interpretation of the people closest to the author(s) of the story would have the most significant insight?

picture yourself at campfire .....listening to Moses
and He reports a story
taking a rib from an man and not killing him

omg!

not until recent centuries could such a thing be believed.....without a nod of trust and faith

 

[Thief]

and the man SLEPT all the while it happened!!!!!

can you believe that!!!!?

 

[allfoak]

There's growing, and then there's feeding your own ignorance so that it grows.

Surely the interpretation of the people closest to the author(s) of the story would have the most significant insight?

Anyone who does what the authors did will have the same insight.
I am not concerned with perspectives that seem to be off the mark, since i view them from the mark itself, i notice them easily.

 

[Fool]

So if 'soul' is everywhere, then it is not finite, and cannot be encapsulated as an individual soul called 'I'.

every soul calls itself "I" in the first person. the soul, or individual/form, is impermanent. the mind is permanent but mutable. every I is known by the name given to them by other self.

its like water in a vessel. it doesn't cease to be water simply because it goes from one vessel into another. For example, when water is taken from a well, or spring, and put in a pitcher, it's still water. when the water is emptied from a pitcher into a cup, it's still water. when the water is emptied from the cup into a human, it's still water. the vessel is impermanent because of the forms it takes, the water remains the same throughout.

when is the soul ever permanent? at birth? at age 2? 10? 21? 45? 58? so again, matter is permanent but the form isn't. matter comes in varying forms at lower/higher masses/densities.

 

[Thief]

every soul calls itself "I" in the first person. the soul, or individual/form, is impermanent. the mind is permanent but mutable. every I is known by the name given to them by other self.

its like water in a vessel. it doesn't cease to be water simply because it goes from one vessel into another. For example, when water is taken from a well, or spring, and put in a pitcher, it's still water. when the water is emptied from a pitcher into a cup, it's still water. when the water is emptied from the cup into a human, it's still water. the vessel is impermanent because of the forms it takes, the water remains the same throughout.

when is the soul ever permanent? at birth? at age 2? 10? 21? 45? 58? so again the matter taken is permanent but the form isn't. matter comes in varying forms at lower/higher masses/densities.

it's not permanent.....unless allowed

that call belongs to Some Greater
do you think otherwise?

(material substance is what we deal with for now
it might not be a good metaphor for what we will deal with .....later on)

 

[Fool]

it's not permanent.....unless allowed

that call belongs to Some Greater
do you think otherwise?

(material substance is what we deal with for now
it might not be a good metaphor for what we will deal with .....later on)

the action is permanent. the result is not. that which is formed can become unformed, or reformed.


create, destroy, preserve

creator, destroyer, preserver.

something lost, but something gained, in living every day.

creating something new from something old again, preserved as another form

recycle - reincarnate

God is omnipresent NOW every where and at every moment. "I" and the Father are ONE.

 

[allfoak]

it's not permanent.....unless allowed

that call belongs to Some Greater
do you think otherwise?

(material substance is what we deal with for now
it might not be a good metaphor for what we will deal with .....later on)

What you are sayig is based upon us being separate from God.
We are not.
The Bible as well as many other ancient texts tell us that we exist within the mind of God.
Acts 17:28

What people call creating would be better described as expanding in knowledge.

 

[Fool]

the form is plastic, mutable.


the action create, destroy, preserve is permanent


And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.


chimera

 

[Willamena]

Anyone who does what the authors did will have the same insight.
I am not concerned with perspectives that seem to be off the mark, since i view them from the mark itself, i notice them easily.

I don't understand: what did the authors do?

 

[Thief]

the action is permanent. the result is not. that which is formed can become unformed, or reformed.


create, destroy, preserve

creator, destroyer, preserver.

something lost, but something gained, in living every day.

creating something new from something old again, preserved as another form

recycle - reincarnate

God is omnipresent NOW every where and at every moment. "I" and the Father are ONE.

science would have you believe....energy cannot be destroyed....
ok

and if you wish to say the soul might be a form of energy....ok

but it is beyond science to detect that energy

if you really are one with the Creator....it must be fun walking on water

 

[Thief]

What you are sayig is based upon us being separate from God.
We are not.
The Bible as well as many other ancient texts tell us that we exist within the mind of God.
Acts 17:28

What people call creating would be better described as expanding in knowledge.

you hear a Voice in your head?

storms dissipate by the wave of your hand?

 

[Fool]

science would have you believe....energy cannot be destroyed....
ok

and if you wish to say the soul might be a form of energy....ok

but it is beyond science to detect that energy

if you really are one with the Creator....it must be fun walking on water

E = m(c*c)

which says energy and matter are the same thing. is it a particle? or is it a wave? it's both.

 

[allfoak]

I don't understand: what did the authors do?

The authors lived their lives in such a way that allowed them to experience what it is that they wrote down.
In other words, what is written down are internal processes of mind, body and spirit.
This is why the meaning of this stuff was not written down, you had to be a member of a mystery school to be taught.