Advice on possible stripping career please

[Trey of Diamonds]

Coming up with a fake job title might backfire if they call your former employers and your old boss says "what? No, she wasn't a waitress, she was an exotic dancer" or something like that.

There's ways to do it without it being fake though. You can use the term Entertainment Specialist or even Professional Dancer. These may not have been your actual title within the company but they do describe what you were doing and are allowed to be substituted. Using waitress would be allowed only if you did perform those duties as well. It would be hoped that you have a good enough relationship with the management to have them not blow it for you. Generally an employer only verifies that the person was an employee between the dates in question and does not reveal title or any other info. To do so is to open them up for a lawsuit. A way to verify this is have a friend call up saying they are considering hiring you and see what they say. Record it and if they bad mouth you, you can send them the tape and say you will take them to court if they give any info other than when you worked there.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Saint Tigeress, since you are in Florida, do you know of Carl Hiaassen? I highly recommend his book Strip Tease.

Congressman David Dilbeck has a bad problem. "I should never," he says, "be around naked women." But he just can't stay away. And late one night, at a gaudy Fort Lauderdale strip joint, Dilbeck loses control. He leaps onto the stage with the performers and proceeds to demonstrate his affections in a most unconventional way.

The congressman barely escapes the scene, but not before being recognized by an odd little customer known as Mr. Peepers - an unlikely blackmailer, but (it turns out) a cunning one. To save himself from an election-year sex scandal, David Dilbeck desperately turns to Malcolm "Moldy" Moldowsky, a devious and cold-blooded political fixer. It is Moldy's mission to protect the congressman's reputation, shaky as it might be, and soon the stakes are murderously high. Meanwhile, the lust-struck Dilbeck secretly pursues the current woman of his dreams, a formidable nude dancer named Erin Grant. She has her own special plans for the wayward politician.

The chase leads from the staid corridors of Congress to the sweltering cane fields of Lake Okeechobee, from a topless wrestling pit to a sunken Guatemalan banana boat. It's a manically inventive and suspenseful tale that resonates with the furious intelligence, merciless characterization and savage good humor that we've come to expect from Carl Hiaasen. "He is so good," says Donald Westlake, "he ought to be illegal." In Strip Tease, Hiaasen is better than ever.

Yes this is what the movie Striptease with Demi Moore and Burt Reynolds was based on but don't judge the book by the movie, it was a very pale imitation.

I'm not saying this book has any advice about being a stripper, but it is a lot of fun and does offer a snap shot of the industry and some of it's potential challenges.

 

[Storm]

I caution you not to simply disregard your bf's objections. All the issues surrounding the career itself, you can't simply ignore his feelings if you want the relationship to survive.

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

There are some disgusting individuals out there. Men are generally all the same to a degree, no matter where they bought their suit from. They wouldn't be in a strip club if they weren't out for a gawk at some young womens breasts.

The only thing is, by that logic, we would al be the same since my bf, best friend and her bf were all there together. Now... my bff's bf concerned me, cause he was a little too upset about the way the VIP room was set up. I thought that was a little wierd/dirty. But anyway, me and my friend and boyfriend all got danced on and I'm not sure why cause we are not bi, but we had fun. We only spent maybe 20.00 each. My best friend is so shy about her body. She really could never do that even though she has the body for it. She only weighs maybe 105 lbs. When she left she agreed with me though, that she thinks she might be able to do it there as well.

As long as you're ok with being viewed as a sexual object. From your BF's perspective though, do you really think he's ok with you taking your top off in front of strangers who are in that place for that reason?

No....
It's just boobs though. Maybe if I dragged him along to a nude beach a time or two he would feel a little more comfortable with the human body. lol

In my experience, and i don't speak for all males here, but if your relationship is serious, either he is not letting out his true feelings, or maybe other things are on his mind? Thats just how i see it, i could well be very wrong.

If I decide to go for it it'll be a slow enough and well planned out process, that he should be okay.

An employer may or may not care about the fact that you made a living stripping; virtually all of them will care about whether they can consider you an honest person. Some employers might throw your resume in the trash if they see "stripper" on it; all of them will throw it out if they think you falsified anything.

If you plan to continue with one of the other jobs you have now or keep at your school courses at a reasonable rate, that would give something to put in that resume "hole" without having to rely on the good nature of your prospective boss at the gentleman's club.

Oh regardless there won't be holes. I've been at at&t about 3 years and I'm not leaving any time soon.

He's protecting his interests like anybody would. Can you blame him for being upset about this?

Nope. I'm doing better and he's doing better. I reassured him of all the time it would take me to follow through: (a) get in shape 3-6 months (b) do my research (c) research the different available clubs (d) audition and after that you still have to get hired....

I'm sorry by the way, i'm not full over very positive advice am i, its all gloomy and negative

You're fine Silly. lol

Saint Tigeress, since you are in Florida, do you know of Carl Hiaassen? I highly recommend his book Strip Tease.

I love Carl Hiaassen! I've never bought any of his books, but I've read enough of his stuff to know I like it. I didn't know he wrote that. Thanks.

I caution you not to simply disregard your bf's objections. All the issues surrounding the career itself, you can't simply ignore his feelings if you want the relationship to survive.

I'm not. We're good. :hearts: He's the best boyfriend ever. We are both being much more empathetic to each other's situation.

 

[BucephalusBB]

It's just boobs though. Maybe if I dragged him along to a nude beach a time or two he would feel a little more comfortable with the human body. lol

Be weary of your thoughts in this case. For you it may be just boobs and a matter of comfor, For another it could be the thing society created as sacred. That could have been a leg, or hair, but our society choose boobs. For you they may be just boobs, but maybe for your boyfriend sacred/special. And now you are telling him that his special will be shared with the world.
And then it has nothing to do with being uncomfortable with the human body.

Maybe, you should give him something else as special

 

[3.14]

ye find something new and kinky to do just for him

 

[BucephalusBB]

ye find something new and kinky to do just for him

Far from what I meant, but I don't think he would mind anyway

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

For you they may be just boobs, but maybe for your boyfriend sacred/special. And now you are telling him that his special will be shared with the world.
And then it has nothing to do with being uncomfortable with the human body.

Like I'm throwing around his "precious." lol. I already told him there's no way in hell I'm throwing around my whoo-ha. Bottoms ON!

Maybe, you should give him something else as special

I'm saving my butt for marriage. :cover:

ye find something new and kinky to do just for him

Daggnabbit not till there's a ring on 'dis finger! :cover:

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

You gotta check these out. :biglaugh:

It's inevitable that at some point when you're learning something like this, you're going to almost kill yourself. If I get a pole, there's gonna be a mat around it! lol.

The first time I ever tried a back hand spring without a spotter I basically jumped backwards onto my head. Maybe that's what's wrong with me now...

Anywho, notice how the instructor doesn't take her hands off the pole, but the other girl does.

YouTube - pole dance lessons gone bad

And this... I read that you're not supposed to wear anything covering your legs, cause then you can't grip with them and control yourself. I guess that was good information. lol

YouTube - Pole dancing gone wrong

One last reason for a mat:

YouTube - Funny Pole Dancing Accident

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

Oh lord this one's scary. That would be bad... This girl could have seriously hurt herself:

YouTube - Funny Pole Dancer

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

You do know about this don't you?

Original Pole Dance workout|Pole Dancing Classes|Cardio Fitness Dance|Workouts for Women|S Factor|Sheila Kelley

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

You do know about this don't you?

Original Pole Dance workout|Pole Dancing Classes|Cardio Fitness Dance|Workouts for Women|S Factor|Sheila Kelley

Yeah I knew that you can buy dvd's and that there are instructor led classes here and there. Unfortunately that group doesn't have any classes in Florida But there are classes I found neaby in Jacksonville. Get this: $20.00 an hour! $75.00 a month for 1 hr a week. I was going to go try it out at least but I think that's almost too pricey to stick with every month. They'd have to be daggum good instructors.

I'm sure there are others. I just haven't looked them up yet.

Oh cool. That S Factor place has mats, shoes, and dvd's. And I just found used versions of the dvd's on amazon for $10 bucks. Heck yeah...

There are actually good step by step instructional videos on you tube as well.

 

[Zephyr]

One big pro about stripping: You keep in shape. If you're the pole dancing sort, that takes some major strength and endurance, and even if not, you have major incentives to keep in shape.

 

[DallasApple]

Tigeress..

I think you have already decided.I think if you can handle the "brutatlity" of it(and comapre it to being a waitress)..and if your boyfriend objects you can corner that as "insecurity" on his part..

Then basically you are doing what you want to do.Quite frankly you sound excited about it.At the idea of it even..So try it out.Nobody will tell you that if its the worst experience in your life you have to keep doing it.

But realize ALL (or most) strippers started to get to a place where they didnt have to strip.

You may enjoy stripping..And compare it to waitressing..

Just please dont minimize your boyfriends feelings that he views the two differently.

Most "men" do not "promote" the one girl they care about tantalizing and teasing other men sexually ..for pay or not for pay.

Its not the same thing as selling drugs either.

Anyway..you sound reved up about it and its what you want to do.I say you should do it then.But dont critisize others who love you that they would rather you not.They have their reasons same as you have for doing it.There reasons cant be assumed to be shallow or selfish.They coud be thinking of you.As well as ..It hurts sometimes to have the one you love to be on sexual display for drooling men and you are for hire for it.

Stripping is about sex honey..there is nothing glamorous about it.

BUT as I said..If it doesnt bother you ..and you compare it to waitressing..You could be an "exibitionist"...And you wont be happy untill you "exibit" your self.

Just dont compare it to being a waitress..

Strippers sell sex..waitresses deliver food to a table.

Anyway..

Love

Dallas

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Stripping is about sex honey..there is nothing glamorous about it.

Sure, stripping is about sex but why can't it be glamorous? And anyone who thinks a Hooters waitress is just delivering wings is missing the point. Stripping isn't really about sex, its about transferring money from one location to another, sex is just what initiates that transfer. You could say that stripping is more honest about it. Hooters waitresses use sex to sell food. Fashion models use sex to sell clothes. Directors use sex to sell movie tickets. The only real difference is in the perceptions of the customer.

 

[blackout]

'serve it up' honey.

You need to worry about putting the food on YOUR OWN table.
Every woman should be economically independent.

I wish I could join you. really.

 

[Nanda]

My sister tried to become a stripper for awhile - turns out, it's not the "easy money" you'd think it is. The girls who make the real money are the ones who get naked in those back rooms. And it's not just drugs you have to watch out for, it's theft of your personal belongings, catfights, and prostitution. Not saying it's all bad, but something to consider.

Recommended reading: "Candy Girl" by Diablo Cody

 

[Draka]

Not having read the whole thread yet I don't know if this stuff has been mentioned, but...here goes:

My best friend did a stint for a while as an exotic dancer and I get the vast impression that it wasn't something she would consider doing again. Yes, the clientel were "upper-middle class", usually business men and others of respect, and according to her, they are the ones to worry about. The ones who have the nice professional face during the day, yet what, exactly, do you think they are doing at a strip club? Always, ALWAYS, have a bouncer walk you to your vehicle. NEVER go ANYWHERE alone. I won't even go into how many times my friend has been sexually assaulted while working there because she won't say anything more than "several" because it's not something she really wants to talk about. According to her, you are looked at as a play thing, a blow-up doll, a toy and nothing more. You are there for the pleasure of others and some will decide for their personal pleasure. You are looked at in a completely different way, and goodness forbid should any of the "clientel" see you in public outside the club. Some may be okay, but you never know so you must always be on your gaurd.

All that said, I don't look down at strippers/exotic dancers, as I said my best friend was one, but I do fear for their safety. No one usually wants to really look at it from that side, and isn't that really the most important side? Safety?

 

[3.14]

wel you have extremly high chance someone will touch you
above avarage chance to get raped
and ofcourse the knowlage people will pleasure themself to your image (this would for me be the most disturbing)

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Not having read the whole thread yet I don't know if this stuff has been mentioned, but...here goes:

My best friend did a stint for a while as an exotic dancer and I get the vast impression that it wasn't something she would consider doing again. Yes, the clientel were "upper-middle class", usually business men and others of respect, and according to her, they are the ones to worry about. The ones who have the nice professional face during the day, yet what, exactly, do you think they are doing at a strip club? Always, ALWAYS, have a bouncer walk you to your vehicle. NEVER go ANYWHERE alone. I won't even go into how many times my friend has been sexually assaulted while working there because she won't say anything more than "several" because it's not something she really wants to talk about. According to her, you are looked at as a play thing, a blow-up doll, a toy and nothing more. You are there for the pleasure of others and some will decide for their personal pleasure. You are looked at in a completely different way, and goodness forbid should any of the "clientel" see you in public outside the club. Some may be okay, but you never know so you must always be on your gaurd.

All that said, I don't look down at strippers/exotic dancers, as I said my best friend was one, but I do fear for their safety. No one usually wants to really look at it from that side, and isn't that really the most important side? Safety?

Well said, and very good advice.