elijoe_15
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The level of ignorance is unreal
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Age of Earth
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The heavy elements didn't appear by magic (divine intervention). They're products of stellar fusion.
Earth did not coalesce by magic. It's all physics -- and how you got Darwin into it I've no idea.
Species change over time through simple, testable, observable mechanisms. There's no magic needed.
Earth did not coalesce by magic. It's all physics -- and how you got Darwin into it I've no idea.
Species change over time through simple, testable, observable mechanisms. There's no magic needed.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
Bull feces. I have kids. I'm a far better parent on my worst day than the god who slaughters innocent children to win a pissing contest against a mortal or to punish little kids for calling an old guy "baldy".
Which skips over the entire question of why were they punished in the first place.
It's the current scientific consensus, which I go with.
We don't need to be at a specific place to know with certainty that a specific thing happened there. We can use deduction; the same thing detectives use to solve crimes that nobody witnessed. In this case, what do we see elsewhere?
Stars form in nebulae. This is observed throughout the universe. Sun is a star. These two facts together logically lead to Sun, and everything that orbits Her including Earth, coming from the same nebula.
The basic elements that the Solar System is comprised of are made in stars, and all the elements that don't directly come from stars, are made from those basic elements given certain conditions.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
Yes it is. I win.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
Quoting Tim Allen movies now, are we?
It didn't "just happen", and we ARE apes.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Who says the earth "just happened" or that people came from apes?
Scientific evidence is verifiable and testable. If you wish to reject evidence, that is your choice. But if you want to convince others that what you are declaring about your god is true, you'll need to provide actual evidence. Something more than "the Bible is true because the Bible says it's true" or "the earth is evidence of god."
Science never proves things. Mathematics proves things.Science just amasses evidence.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Human beings with functional brains, that's who.
elijoe_15
Member
God is all-good and therefore doesn't "slaughter" anyone.You obviously know nothing about Christ.Also,they weren't punished they were given a choice.Plus would you really want a world without punishments? because that solves everything
Marisa
Well-Known Member
I agree with you there. It constantly amazes me that people who have no idea what evolution says, cannot give even a basic representation of what it is but are nevertheless bound and determined they are gonna skule people on how stoopid they are. Humans are members of the primate family, dear, we share 97% and 99% of our DNA with our closest relatives, the chimp and the bonobo it's but one fused piece of data which separates us from the chimp.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yes it sure is.
elijoe_15
Member
But we aren't apes at all lolI agree with you there. It constantly amazes me that people who have no idea what evolution says, cannot give even a basic representation of what it is but are nevertheless bound and determined they are gonna skule people on how stoopid they are. Humans are members of the primate family, dear, we share 97% and 99% of our DNA with our closest relatives, the chimp and the bonobo it's but one fused piece of data which separates us from the chimp.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
Bingo, you've never read the Old Testament except for the top 10 hits list, a few chapters of Genesis and maybe the heartwarming tale of Noah in which god slaughtered a whole planet. Care to try again?
S/he's already admitted s/he believes the Sun orbits the Earth. You expect him/her to grok something as counter-intuitive as quantum mechanics?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Have you not read the Bible?
And again you ignore the point that they weren't actually given an informed choice. How can you make a proper choice to be good or evil if you don't know the difference between good and evil? Or the point that it's not a choice if you have to believe something, or else.
I'm still waiting for you to point out some flaws in evolution that don't rely on fallacies.