Aids & the prophecy

[FearGod]

On the highest level, life after death is not even an Issue. There is a unity to all that is. But yes I believe in life after death.

I do not believe that we are going before a God who looks like an old man with a big white beard sitting on a throne in heaven, deciding ware we spend the rest of our existence. Every day is Judgement Day and all of us should be accountable for how we live. Behaving correctly because we will earn our way in to paradise is not love. People who say prayers to go to heaven (even 5 times a day) does not love God but is more like a religion of the businessman. I will do this and you will give me that. If I was to marry a woman and said I will marry her because she is rich and I will get a nice car and live in a Mansion. Who would believe that I really love this woman... nobody ! Yet, we find It ok for people to say they Love God and they get to go to paradise because of it. Or I follow Gods rules so he won't give me some terrible illness. This is not my view of the highest morality that I want to follow. I have much more respect for an Atheist who follows some ethical priceable just because it is right. At least he/she loves the truth.

God did not ask us to love him,but he asked us to obey him and to follow his orders and
not to reject what he requested from us to do.

But god will love those who obey him and the paradise is his reward to them,i dont
find anything strange on it.

Your father may reward you for being good in school because he loves you.

you have studied hard during school,homeworks,memorizing,test and then you past the
exam then your reward is a good job and that you become an educated gentleman.

The actor/actress got many lovers and they do their job perfectly with pleasure,but if
they will not be rewarded for their work,then they will be disappointed.

My friend,please do not think that i am debating for the purpose of to win or lose,but
to find the truth,and i will never be a stubborn for accepting logical facts.

Even if the world will have 1000 religion,but then god is one and the creator is one.

God dont like those who are arrogants,one eaxample was pharaon

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One of the Miracles of the Quran explained by Yusuf Estes - YouTube

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The Miracle of Pharaoh in the Quran - YouTube

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

As i said to you infants and children are in paradise,if you believe about it.

So killing infants is morally good?

Should we follow God's example and kill children ourselves? If we'd be guaranteeing their place in paradise by doing it, this would be nothing but positive, wouldn't it?

Thanks god that he guided us to test the blood before transfusion,so we can
know that such person got a dirty blood due to adultery,then we avoid to
use his dirty blood and care should be done to dispose it.

Why didn't God "guide" people to test blood properly until the late 1980s? Many people have died from blood tainted by HIV, hepatitis or other blood-borne pathogens; God could have prevented their deaths, couldn't he? Why didn't he?

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

God did not ask us to love him,but he asked us to obey him and to follow his orders and
not to reject what he requested from us to do.

But god will love those who obey him and the paradise is his reward to them,i dont
find anything strange on it.

I just can't see why love is not a part of your belief.

 

[FearGod]

So killing infants is morally good?

Should we follow God's example and kill children ourselves? If we'd be guaranteeing their place in paradise by doing it, this would be nothing but positive, wouldn't it?

of course you cant kill children yourself because in this way you choosed the hell to yourself

Why didn't God "guide" people to test blood properly until the late 1980s? Many people have died from blood tainted by HIV, hepatitis or other blood-borne pathogens; God could have prevented their deaths, couldn't he? Why didn't he?

killing of innocents by aids,cancers,disasters,accidents or whatever the cause which
already planned by god can never be questioned,he owned what he created and its
up to him how to end our lives.

An example is the story of prophet moses peace be upon him and Al-khadir,as prophet moses was shocked to see an inocent child to be killed for no reason,
but Al-khadir explained to moses for what reason the child have been killed.

Let me give you one example by asking you one question.
Will you feel sad to know that Hitler was dead by cancer at the age of 9 years old,
you will say,yes i wish if he was died at the age of 9 years if i have to know that millions will suffer because of his dictatorism.

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22 - Musa (Moses) and Al-Khidr (Kheyr) - YouTube

 

[FearGod]

I just can't see why love is not a part of your belief.

God is unseen,you cant see him and he is never as you described him an old man with a white beard

if you know that creation is done by the creator,then that is god.

he is not french,english or chinese man and we know that he is the only one and you cant compare him to anything on earth.

you show your love to your parent by opeying them,and you can show your love to god by obeying him.

you cant love him by a kiss on the cheek

anyway you can love your god the way you like,that is up to you of course,but i
hope that you could show me how your god looks like and how you love him.

 

[fishy]

he owned

If you give your son a kitten is he entitled to kill it because he owns it? And don't equivocate over the create business, it's the ownership that gives your god the right to kill people at his whim. Carry on.

 

[McBell]

It is interesting how god has no more power than what people give him.

 

[FearGod]

If you give your son a kitten is he entitled to kill it because he owns it? And don't equivocate over the create business, it's the ownership that gives your god the right to kill people at his whim. Carry on.

So,if your son did it and then he killed the kitten.

What will be your response,
Will you hate your child and then kick him outside of your home and you may
even kill your son for such an awful act.

 

[fishy]

So,if your son did it and then he killed the kitten.

What will be your response,
Will you hate your child and then kick him outside of your home and you may
even kill your son for such an awful act.

Irrelevant.
Answer the question.

 

[FearGod]

It is interesting how god has no more power than what people give him.

There are 2 choices
God is a real
God is a lie

We are blind,we dont know what will be after death,then we have again 2 results
God found to be true and we have to be ready for the punishment
God found to be a lie,then nothing will happen.

imagine now you died as a disbeliever and another one died as a believer, then,
if god was real,you will be a loser and the believer will be a winner
if god was a lie,no one will win

Which is the wiser choice ?

 

[McBell]

There are 2 choices
God is a real
God is a lie

We are blind,we dont know what will be after death,then we have again 2 results
God found to be true and we have to be ready for the punishment
God found to be a lie,then nothing will happen.

imagine now you died as a disbeliever and another one died as a believer, then,
if god was real,you will be a loser and the believer will be a winner
if god was a lie,no one will win

Which is the wiser choice ?

Interesting how you would try to dodge the point with pascal's Wager.
One wonders if your god falls for it....

 

[fishy]

There are 2 choices
God is a real
God is a lie

We are blind,we dont know what will be after death,then we have again 2 results
God found to be true and we have to be ready for the punishment
God found to be a lie,then nothing will happen.

imagine now you died as a disbeliever and another one died as a believer, then,
if god was real,you will be a loser and the believer will be a winner
if god was a lie,no one will win

Which is the wiser choice ?

Irrelevant.
Answer the question.

 

[fishy]

Pascal Columbines, does anyone remember them? I think they would pull my teeth out now, but then............Oh WOW.
Definitely getting old. :biglaugh:

 

[FearGod]

Rates of oral cancer are on the rise among men, and researchers say the culprit isn't the devil you might think.

The rising rates of oral cancer aren't being caused by tobacco, experts say, but by HPV, the same sexually transmitted virus responsible for the vast majority of cases of cervical cancer in women.

Millions of women and girls have been vaccinated against HPV, or human papillomavirus, but doctors now say men exposed to the STD during oral sex are at risk as well and may have higher chances of developing oral cancer.
Research: Oral Sex Puts Men at Risk for Oral Cancer

 

[FearGod]

Pascal Columbines, does anyone remember them? I think they would pull my teeth out now, but then............Oh WOW.
Definitely getting old. :biglaugh:

sorry,but your question is pointless,are you still doing this :biglaugh:,

 

[FearGod]

Interesting how you would try to dodge the point with pascal's Wager.
One wonders if your god falls for it....

First time i hear about pascal's wager but then i do agree with him at this point.

 

[McBell]

First time i hear about pascal's wager but then i do agree with him at this point.

Does your god fall for it?

 

[FearGod]

Does your god fall for it?

people are making many gods,your god,mine god,his god.
But if you believe that there is a creator then that is god,

it is not logical to have god for each group,one for christians,one for
muslims and the other for jews and maybe we can make god also for chickens, for dogs and then our world was created by many gods.that will be silly

 

[McBell]

people are making many gods,your god,mine god,his god.
But if you believe that there is a creator then that is god,

it is not logical to have god for each group,one for christians,one for
muslims and the other for jews and maybe we can make god also for chickens, for dogs and then our world was created by many gods.that will be silly

You do realize that it is considered quite rude to make people ask you the same question over and over, right?

Care to try again, only this time actually addressing the point?

 

[FearGod]

Did you hear that, did you?
I think it was god, I think he "said damn missed........again."
He aimed at a homosexual man and hit an innocent kid who he'd already shot before with his haemophiliac bullet. Oh well.
Are you sure this dude is all knowing?

So you think that such things cant be done by god the all knowing,
so who do you think did it,is it the natural selection doing it and transfer aids
virus to the next generation.

What do you think may happen if we dont care about the virus and we keep
commit adultery all around the world without even any protection such as
condoms which may help for some degree.

Do you think the natural selection could work and then our bodies will develop
a new system for protection against the virus to keep our species or will all
of us finaly extincted and a better species evolved from us.

What do you think,do you have a better view of this problem.

Can we know the secret that the bit** (female dogs) dont aquire STD eventhough
they have many male partners,then once we know the secret we can do enjoy sex
as dogs do without any worries about the STD.

Who to be blamed about the STD,the nature,god or we.

if the nature,explain to me why
if god,then explain to me why
if we,then explain to me why