Alabama passes bill making some transgender healthcare a felony

[Wildswanderer]

Yes! Joe is sneaky. Very sneaky

He's part of the problem, as are all the others who refuse to use their own resources in the name of green energy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

He's part of the problem, as are all the others who refuse to use their own resources in the name of green energy.

Now it appears that you don't value the lives of your children.

 

[Wildswanderer]

No, you are thinking of tRump again.

This complete lack of interest in cutting spending began early in the administration, when President Biden sent a letter to Congress on January 31, 2021, withdrawing President Trump’s 73 proposed rescissions that would have saved taxpayers $27.4 billion, including several that were included in the Obama-Biden budgets for terminations, reductions, and savings, such as the Commission on Fine Arts, the East–West Center, the McGovern-Dole Food for Education program, and Presidio Trust. During his April 28, 2021, address to Congress, President Biden did not say a single word about wasteful spending, nor has he made any other comments or issued any executive orders requiring federal agencies to identify or reduce inefficiency.

Joe Biden Believes There Is No Government Waste | National Review

 

[Wildswanderer]

Now it appears that you don't value the lives of your children.

Thier lives will be much better if we drill for oil and cut down on our energy dependence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This complete lack of interest in cutting spending began early in the administration, when President Biden sent a letter to Congress on January 31, 2021, withdrawing President Trump’s 73 proposed rescissions that would have saved taxpayers $27.4 billion, including several that were included in the Obama-Biden budgets for terminations, reductions, and savings, such as the Commission on Fine Arts, the East–West Center, the McGovern-Dole Food for Education program, and Presidio Trust. During his April 28, 2021, address to Congress, President Biden did not say a single word about wasteful spending, nor has he made any other comments or issued any executive orders requiring federal agencies to identify or reduce inefficiency.

Joe Biden Believes There Is No Government Waste | National Review

Wise spending is not throwing money away. And an opinion piece is not evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thier lives will be much better if we drill for oil and cut down on our energy dependence.

You forgot that AGW is a real thing.

 

[Reyn]

Or how about you stop using us in such a way? In fact, please don't. I'm working on making a case that healthcare providers have to be aware of a few things when it comes to treating us, and racist garbage like that doesn't help when I make side notes when anything medical asks about race and special concerns.
Ariel is a fake character. Who the hell cares how she's portrayed? That's no different than complaining about the Hispanic Spiderman.

A lot of people care, actually. How about when a black character is played by a white actor? Wait, that already happened. It happened to the point of forcing white actors to apologize for their part, and even caused directors to recast. However, when a white character is cast by a black person, it's fine. No, it's not just fine, it's *woke*, it's *progressive*, it's *brave*. Just spare me the double standard racist bull****... please! The fact is, Ariel is just one among many white characters recast by black or other non white actors. If you think it stops at fiction, it doesn't. If the left didn't make such a big deal out of white actors playing black roles, it would bother me less.

 

[Reyn]

Thank you, that's very interesting. So, a few questions:

1) Does this mean that a woman who does not go through a female puberty (say, due to Kallmann syndrome), or is unable to naturally produce estrogen, does not count as a woman?
2) Why should reproduction factor into this definition? There are a lot of infertile women out there who are still referred to as women.
3) So, to remain ideologically consistent, before referring to anybody as a woman or by female pronouns, do you investigate their biological birth, puberty and their ability to naturally produce estrogen?

Born with ovaries. Let's go with that.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Born with ovaries. Let's go with that.

So how do you identify a woman? Do you personally check to see they were born with ovaries?

What about women born without ovaries, such as those who suffer MRKH syndrome?

 

[Reyn]

So how do you identify a woman? Do you personally check to see they were born with ovaries?

What about women born without ovaries, such as those who suffer MRKH syndrome?

I don't identify as a woman. I AM a woman. Yes, I have ovaries. I grew up, went through puberty, have a menses, etc. I'm a woman.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I never made it my business to disallow mentally ill adults from receiving genital mutilation. However, I also do not agree that I should be forced to use anyone's preferred pronouns, nor validate their identity by calling them men if they are women or women if they are men. We clear?

I've got a question, how would you even know that you're calling someone by a pronoun you don't agree with? Do you check the genitals of every person you meet?

How would you even know that you're calling a man a woman or vice versa? And, what's it to you to just be a human being and refer to someone as they wish to be addressed? Do you tell people your name when you meet them and expect them to call you by that, or can they just call you whatever they feel like calling you and you're cool with that?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I don't identify as a woman. I AM a woman. Yes, I have ovaries. I grew up, went through puberty, have a menses, etc. I'm a woman.

No, I'm asking how you IDENTIFY a woman. That is, if you see someone in the street, how to you IDENTIFY that that person is a woman without any knowledge of their ovaries?

And, by your standard, to women born without ovaries not count as women?

 

[Reyn]

I've got a question, how would you even know that you're calling someone by a pronoun you don't agree with? Do you check the genitals of every person you meet?

How would you even know that you're calling a man a woman or vice versa? And, what's it to you to just be a human being and refer to someone as they wish to be addressed? Do you tell people your name when you meet them and expect them to call you by that, or can they just call you whatever they feel like calling you and you're cool with that?

I tend to use he/him she/her or they/them if people ask. Anything else, I refuse. I do not use neos.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Gingers are a minority but that didn't stop Disney from blackwashing Ariel, did it? Anyways, back to the topic. I'm against trans women being considered women because it's erasing womanhood itself. It's also erasing lesbians, since what even is a lesbian now? It's a woman who isn't attracted to a man and by default, who isn't into dick. However, I've heard mentally ill men who are deluded into thinking they are women say that lesbians who don't want to go out with them because they have a penis are transphobic. They aren't and I'm sick of this.

Blackwashing?
Eeesh.

 

[Reyn]

No, I'm asking how you IDENTIFY a woman. That is, if you see someone in the street, how to you IDENTIFY that that person is a woman without any knowledge of their ovaries?

And, by your standard, to women born without ovaries not count as women?

I look female. I wear female attire. I have a feminine voice. I'm female and my behavior is that of a female. As for people born without ovaries, I think they call those intersex? I could be mistaken.

 

[Reyn]

Blackwashing?
Eeesh.

Yes, blackwashing and anti whiteism in general. Yes, that's a thing. No, it's not racist to say.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I look female. I wear female attire. I have a feminine voice. I'm female and my behavior is that of a female.

But you have never said that these things make you female. You have only said that being born with ovaries makes you female. So how does outward appearance and behaviour indicate that you are female? How do you determine what behaviours, attire or voices are "female" if the only signifier of being female is being born with ovaries?

As for people born without ovaries, I think they call those intersex? I could be mistaken.

No, I am talking about people with MRKH syndrome. It's a disorder that mostly affects the female reproductive system.
Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No, he was not. That is like saying if you go to war against a country that happens to be a democracy, than it means you are “antidemocracy”. We did not go to war with Germany over their type of government.

It is beyond pathetic how antifa weaklings have been comparing themselves to WW2 vets.

Yep, he was. Antifa means "anti-fascist." He fought against fascists.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Throwing away taxpayer money hasn't helped the economy.

So, as I thought. You think helping people who are struggling to make ends meet is akin to "throwing away taxpayer money."

 

[fantome profane]

Yes, blackwashing and anti whiteism in general. Yes, that's a thing. No, it's not racist to say.

Have you ever seen or read The Little Mermaid? In any version? Did you understand it?

The story is, and has been since the original, about a girl who decides to change her race, and to have physical changes made to her anatomy.

Think about it.