ALL pedophiles are gay..???

[St Giordano Bruno]

Who made that stupid premise?

 

[Midnight Pete]

In this case, as a relevant factor in sexuality, Paedophilia trumps Heterosexual every time. That's why so many wrongcocks are attracted to the Catholic Priesthood. Here they can have a cover that doesn't involve having to go through the distasteful motions of "Making the beast with two backs" on a Woman.

Do you think the Catholic Priesthood produces wrongcocks as well as attracts them?

 

[MW0082]

This statement makes infuriates me. Just let me go ask all the little girls that pedophillies raped and see if the man raping them was gay or not.

Agreed.....

 

[logician]

So what you are implying here, is that once he has finished the actual act of sodomising a young boy, he stops being a paedophile, goes home to his wife, and resumes a life of Hetero normality? Because that sounds like you're trying to create some kind of loophole, that would validate this horrible perversion.

Once someone has begun sexually interacting with children, they are a paedophile. You can't throw your hands up and say "But, . . . . . he has sex with his hot Wifey, he must be "mostly" Heterosexual!"
At that stage of the game, it is irrelevant!

No, please read carefully, a person can be both a heterosexual, AND a pedophille, they are not exclusionary. You can have a sex drive for a woman, but also the deviant power drive to be a pedophile.

 

[sojourner]

"wrongcock"

Great name for a punk band!

 

[sojourner]

I think sexual deviance isn't what's in question. If a person has a sexual preference (I am not talking about homosexuality)that someone else doesn't approve of, but is not illegal or doesn't harm anyone else, then it really isn't anyone else's business. If a person is religious, and does something that he or she think may be against what the religion teaches, then it is between that person and God. If a person is not religious, we can't very well expect them to follow those religious rules, whatever they may be.
But that isn't really the subject either. Pedophilia is a sexual act between a child and an adult- and a person's sexual preference(or whatever pc term we are using now) doesn't come into question or shouldn't. And most gays wouldn't touch a child any more than most heterosexual's would.

Actually, not to convolute the issue, pedophilia is a preference. It's just a deviant preference, and not a sexual preference It's an "age" preference. That's why true pedophiles cannot be "rehabilitated."
the differences between hetero/homo and pedo are differences of abnormality.

Homosexuality can either be normal or deviant. Heterosexuality can either be normal or deviant. Pedophilia can only be deviant. One can be a heterosexual pedophile or a homosexual pedophile. But one does not determine the other. The pedophile, in addition to his/her sexual preference has an additional preference for children. It's the additional preference that is a deviant preference.

 

[Midnight Pete]

Actually, not to convolute the issue, pedophilia is a preference. It's just a deviant preference, and not a sexual preference It's an "age" preference. That's why true pedophiles cannot be "rehabilitated."
the differences between hetero/homo and pedo are differences of abnormality.

Homosexuality can either be normal or deviant. Heterosexuality can either be normal or deviant. Pedophilia can only be deviant. One can be a heterosexual pedophile or a homosexual pedophile. But one does not determine the other. The pedophile, in addition to his/her sexual preference has an additional preference for children. It's the additional preference that is a deviant preference.

Good analysis! I agree 100%.

 

[BadBeast]

Do you think the Catholic Priesthood produces wrongcocks as well as attracts them?

Yes, I think it probably does. It's characteristic of this kind of sexual abuse, that the victim imprints sexually on the abusive pattern, and it's our earliest sexual experiences that shape our adult behaviour.

 

[AxisMundi]

This statment makes me furious, and it was just said to me. I could go through the wires and come out the other end and hurt someone over this. How does a religous person so devout in the non sense they beleive come to THIS conclusion...?!?!?!?!

I have found that such a comparison as pedophiles to homosexuals, much like trying to compare apples and automobiles, is simple willfull ignorance and an attempt to justify their hatred, to temselves and otherws, for the gay community by attempting to create a link between homosexuality, and something pretty much everyone abhores.

 

[AxisMundi]

In this case, as a relevant factor in sexuality, Paedophilia trumps Heterosexual every time. That's why so many wrongcocks are attracted to the Catholic Priesthood. Here they can have a cover that doesn't involve having to go through the distasteful motions of "Making the beast with two backs" on a Woman.

How many pedophile priests have a history of pedophiles before entering the clergy?

Either there are no statistics available, or, more probably, the answer is none.

It is much more reasonable to assume that it is the effects of enforced celibacy that makes some turn to children to ease their primal instinct.

I feel that if the RCC caught up with the times and allowed their clergy to marry, this sort of behavior would disappear.

 

[jumpingjoy]

Only the bigoted and ill-informed would make such a cretinous statement that all paedophiles are gay!

 

[BadBeast]

How many pedophile priests have a history of pedophiles before entering the clergy?

Either there are no statistics available, or, more probably, the answer is none.

It is much more reasonable to assume that it is the effects of enforced celibacy that makes some turn to children to ease their primal instinct.

I feel that if the RCC caught up with the times and allowed their clergy to marry, this sort of behavior would disappear.

Not true. There are, in fact similar percentage of Paedophile Schoolteachers, as there are Paedophile Priests.
(Or there were in the 1980's when the survey I read was made, There are more stringent background checks these days, at least in State Schools)

And as far as I know, there is no restriction on Teachers marrying, or any reigieme of enforced celibacy for the Teaching profession. Paedophiles will naturally gravitate towards Professions and lifestyles where they will have the most access to the objects of their desire. Why would they not do so?

 

[TheQueenCat]

It's a very stupid statement.. that's all.

 

[BadBeast]

Yes, it's a very stupid statement. But it's compounded by a few equally, if not even more stupid statements in this thread.

 

[David69]

This statment makes me furious, and it was just said to me. I could go through the wires and come out the other end and hurt someone over this. How does a religous person so devout in the non sense they beleive come to THIS conclusion...?!?!?!?!

People could say that all priests are pedophiles, that would make more sense because we hear of it all the time as fact

 

[BadBeast]

People could say that all priests are pedophiles, that would make more sense because we hear of it all the time as fact

But this statement is equally as retarded as the OP. 6 Pages and 55 replies to one of the most retarded backwards OP's I've seen for a long time, and you go and absolutely negate every poster before you by posting an equally stupid sweeping
titwank of a post. Well done. Even the poster who tried to validate some spurious point by saying "Yeah but Michael Jackson was a gay paedophile" had more of a bloody point to make than this.

 

[Poisonshady313]

How does a religous person so devout in the non sense they beleive come to THIS conclusion...?!?!?!?!

Bill Donohue.

I don't remember where, I don't remember when... but I'm reasonably certain that this view came from the President of the Catholic League. I think in some news show where he's debating some guy about the Priest child abuse scandal.

That's how.

 

[Agnostic75]

I don't see what being religious has to do with this [conclusion].

A good deal of evidence shows that religiosity affects many people's opinions about many issues. For examples, it is well-known that in the U.S., the chief opponents by far of homosexuality, same-sex marriage, allowing openly homosexual people to join the military, abortion, and physician assisted suicide, are religious people. Recently, a Republican Christian member of Congress, I forget who, made a comment about global warming, and said that God promised never to cover the earth with water again. Many other religious Christians frequently quote the Bible as a basis for their political opinions. There are still millions of Americans who believe that the earth is young, that a global flood occurred, and that the story of Adam and Eve is true, and it is largely that group of Christians who oppose the things that I mentioned the most.

Consider the following:

Family Research Council | Southern Poverty Law Center#

“Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual movement.”
— Robert Knight, FRC director of cultural studies, and Frank York, 1999

“[Homosexuality] … embodies a deep-seated hatred against true religion.”
— Steven Schwalm, FRC senior writer and analyst, in “Desecrating Corpus Christi,” 1999

“One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets of a new sexual order.’”
--1999 FRC pamphlet, Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex with Boys.

“[T]he evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners.”
— Timothy Dailey, senior research fellow, “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse,” 2002

“While activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two. … It is a homosexual problem.”
— FRC President Tony Perkins, FRC website, 2010

Background

The Family Research Council (FRC) emerged from a 1980 White House conference on families. James Dobson, founder of the religious right powerhouse Focus on the Family, met and prayed with a group of eight Christian leaders at a Washington hotel, leading ultimately to the creation of the FRC in 1983 under the initial direction of Gerald Regnier (formerly of the Department of Health and Human Services). The group became a division of Focus on the Family in 1988 under Gary Bauer, a religious right leader who would use his post as a launching pad for a failed 2000 run for the presidency. Bauer had been the undersecretary of education and a domestic policy advisor to President Reagan.

Bauer raised the FRC’s profile, increased its effectiveness, and built a national network of “concerned citizens” during the Clinton Administration. But FRC separated from Focus on the Family in 1992 over concerns that its very political work might threatened Focus’ tax-exempt status; Dobson and two other Focus officials joined FRC’s newly independent board. As an independent nonprofit, FRC continued its work in “pro-family” areas, working against abortion and stem cell research, fighting pornography and homosexuality, and promoting “the Judeo-Christian worldview as the basis for a just, free, and stable society.” That work would establish FRC as one of the most powerful of the far right’s advocacy groups.

As the excerpts show, Dr. James Dobson, who has a huge following of millions of people, influenced the formation of the Family Research Council.

Interestingly, George Alan Rekers, one of the co-founders of the Family Research Council, is a closet homosexual, and a Baptist minister [now "formerly" a Baptist minister], reference an article at Anti-gay Family Research Council co-founder in gay tryst (Religious Right Watch).

Dr. Paul Cameron, Ph.D., psychological, is another conservative Christian who claims that homosexuals have a high rate of child abuse. Interested readers can read a Wikipedia article about Cameron at Paul Cameron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Cameron has been stronly criticized by the American Psychological Association, as well as some other professional organizations.

Religious Muslims hardly need discussing, but I will briefly mention that in Islamic republics who practice Sharia law, homosexuals are imprisoned or put to death.

 

[Reverend Rick]

That's why true pedophiles cannot be "rehabilitated."

Another sad fact is, many pedophiles where abuse as children themselves.

 

[BadBeast]

Family Research Council? What Family is that then? The Manson Family? If I caught anyone like this trying to do "Research" on / for my Family, I'd be tempted to chain him up in a deep dark hole somewhere, until he stops. And I do mean stop in it's most "will never start again"
sense.
can almost hear the marching of Jackboots, as the "Council" Goosestep in perfect formation right over your Bill of Rights, before dragging all of America's children off to "Family Re-Orientation Boot-Camps" to be taught "Family Values" by a man who secretly likes to do depraved, unthinkable things to try to appease the Old, sick, dark God he worships. Moloch, eater of children, I expect. And this council is probably made up from Manticores, Ogres, and other subhuman types who prey on Children. I expect they all live together in a Gingerbread House somewhere.