All Terrorists are Muslims...Except the 94% that Aren’t!

[faithglendale]

faithglendale,

Thanks for the references, I'm going to run them by a couple Muslim/Muslimah friends to get the full context and see if you're right about any of them.

Are you saying it was a mistake not to have committed more genocide than they were already responsible for? Just wanting to be clear on your meaning...

While I am not an advocator for war, it is our past and present. The war on terror continued as long as it did for this very same reason. If only some of the terrorists were killed, all that would be accomplished is lessening their numbers. And that is exactly what has happened. The issues that fueled the fire remain and unless that changes, sympathizers and the children who are taught this religious hatred will follow in their footsteps.

So unfortunately, the answer to your question is yes. But as usual, there are alternatives to war. And in this case, it would be to share Jesus' message of love and forgiveness with Muslims who are still living under the shadow of Old Testament theology. Minus the multitudes of direct quotes from God for all of His people, none of which are in Allah's Reminder.

Despite a tumultuous history, the faith Muslims have in the God of Abraham has not waivered. Even without the spiritual rewards and blessings that Jesus bestowed on us renews us daily. A faith that strong would require them to defend the Qur'an. But what I found, is that it is hard to take things out of context in the Qur'an when the verses above and below the one in question are more often than not, speaking of a totally different issue. Reading from beginning to end while taking notes, is the only way to organize the teachings in order to get the whole picture.

 

[Assad91]

We don't need Christian Jesus' "love and forgiveness" as Allah (swt) is all we need.

We don't need Christian Jesus' "spiritual rewards and blessings" to renew us daily, as we have salah 5 times daily for that and dhikr.We don't need to convert and practice shirk.

Don't be so full of yourself. Christians for centuries fought bloody wars, even with these so implied superior beliefs.

 

[Aquitaine]

We don't need Christian Jesus' "love and forgiveness" as Allah (swt) is all we need.

We don't need Christian Jesus' "spiritual rewards and blessings" to renew us daily, as we have salah 5 times daily for that and dhikr.We don't need to convert and practice shirk.

Don't be so full of yourself. Christians for centuries fought bloody wars, even with these so implied superior beliefs.

I wouldn't let it bother you, Assad91. People from all different religions think that their specific beliefs are superior to everybody else's.

It gets annoying, but you get used to it after a while.

 

[faithglendale]

We don't need Christian Jesus' "love and forgiveness" as Allah (swt) is all we need.

We don't need Christian Jesus' "spiritual rewards and blessings" to renew us daily, as we have salah 5 times daily for that and dhikr.We don't need to convert and practice shirk.

Don't be so full of yourself. Christians for centuries fought bloody wars, even with these so implied superior beliefs.

In the same way that peace loving Muslims will defend Allah's Reminder; as a real Christian, I will defend Christ when it comes to the Crusades and any other war. It was not the true Muslim spirit that killed thousands of lives on September Eleventh. It was only the radicals that wanted death to the west, correct?

The Christian crusades were not from God, nor were they from true believers. I would never defend forcing one's own beliefs on others. What I am here to say is, the God of the Bible and of Abraham, did not write the Qur'an.

OUR ancestors roamed the desert because of their sinful complaints, and God punished them continually. While also promising, when they finally called on Him, He would be there for them. God's love for believers and nonbelievers goes beyond dispute. It is the entire message of the New Covenant. One that Allah thought Muslims would never see.

If taken seriously, Come back My people,

 

[Assad91]

I'm not sure if I should be angry or have pity

 

[faithglendale]

We don't need Christian Jesus' "love and forgiveness" as Allah (swt) is all we need.

We don't need Christian Jesus' "spiritual rewards and blessings" to renew us daily, as we have salah 5 times daily for that and dhikr.We don't need to convert and practice shirk.

Don't be so full of yourself. Christians for centuries fought bloody wars, even with these so implied superior beliefs.

In the same way that peace loving Muslims will defend Allah's Reminder; as a real Christian, I will defend Christ when it comes to the Crusades and any other war. It was not the true Muslim spirit that killed thousands of lives on September Eleventh. It was only the radicals that wanted death to the west, correct?
The Christian crusades were not from God, nor were they from true believers. I would never defend forcing one's own beliefs on others. What I am here to say is, the God of the Bible and of Abraham, did not write the Qur'an, nor did He advocate the killing of nonbelievers or hypocrites.
OUR ancestors roamed the desert because of their sinful complaints and God punished them continually. While also promising, when they finally called on Him, He would be there for them. God's love for believers and nonbelievers goes beyond dispute. It is the entire message of the New Covenant. One that Satan thought Muslims would never see.
There is only One true God for all of us. Come back My people, is calling all of His people back to the God of our fathers. The Old Testament, rightfully so, is accused of unthinkable destruction. The truth of Jesus and His message of salvation to all who call on Him, is the only answer out of this war of hatred and denial.

 

[Assad91]

Uh war of hatred started by christians. Keep your unbiblical man worship to yourself

 

[dust1n]

Anarchists use to be the worse until the October Revolution.

Propaganda of the deed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[F0uad]

In the same way that peace loving Muslims will defend Allah's Reminder; as a real Christian, I will defend Christ when it comes to the Crusades and any other war. It was not the true Muslim spirit that killed thousands of lives on September Eleventh. It was only the radicals that wanted death to the west, correct?
The Christian crusades were not from God, nor were they from true believers. I would never defend forcing one's own beliefs on others. What I am here to say is, the God of the Bible and of Abraham, did not write the Qur'an, nor did He advocate the killing of nonbelievers or hypocrites.
OUR ancestors roamed the desert because of their sinful complaints and God punished them continually. While also promising, when they finally called on Him, He would be there for them. God's love for believers and nonbelievers goes beyond dispute. It is the entire message of the New Covenant. One that Satan thought Muslims would never see.
There is only One true God for all of us. Come back My people, is calling all of His people back to the God of our fathers. The Old Testament, rightfully so, is accused of unthinkable destruction. The truth of Jesus and His message of salvation to all who call on Him, is the only answer out of this war of hatred and denial.

So you are defending white man that went from city to city raping women, stealing stuff and killing innocent civilians for what reason?

 

[darkendless]

Uh war of hatred started by christians. Keep your unbiblical man worship to yourself

Come now play nicely.

 

[darkendless]

So you are defending white man that went from city to city raping women, stealing stuff and killing innocent civilians for what reason?

.... so to respond to bigotry you slander an entire religion.

Isn't it usually followers of Islam who are grossly offended by non-complimentary references to their prophet?

Seems a little hypocritical

 

[Assad91]

Foud was slandering what? Christianity or the Crusades?

 

[darkendless]

Foud was slandering what? Christianity or the Crusades?

Both it seems.

 

[F0uad]

Both it seems.

I did? So are you suggesting that Christianity teaches you to do so, i don't think so maybe you do?

To make it clear i was talking about the crusaders.

 

[Meow Mix]

To give an outsider's perspective here (outside to this particular iteration of the conversation), I thought it was clearly about the Crusades myself.

 

[faithglendale]

We don't need Christian Jesus' "love and forgiveness" as Allah (swt) is all we need.

We don't need Christian Jesus' "spiritual rewards and blessings" to renew us daily, as we have salah 5 times daily for that and dhikr.We don't need to convert and practice shirk.

Don't be so full of yourself. Christians for centuries fought bloody wars, even with these so implied superior beliefs.

Are these prayer quotes being recited from the Qur'an or from leaders within Islam? Or are they in your own words, coming straight from the heart? Jesus did give us an example of how to pray, and many do recite it. But it is not a requirement. Jesus also gave stern warnings on the manner in which we pray, directed to all believers, including Christians.

[FONT=Courier New, sans-serif]Matthew 6.5. And when thou prays, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New, sans-serif]6. -When thou prays, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which sees in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knows what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.[/FONT]


[FONT=Courier New, sans-serif]As far as the bloody wars go, we cannot judge Christ or Christianity by the acts of those who were not born again and spirit filled. Just like we cannot judge all Muslims by the acts of extremists.
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[faithglendale]

I wouldn't let it bother you, Assad91. People from all different religions think that their specific beliefs are superior to everybody else's.

It gets annoying, but you get used to it after a while.

The difference here is the fact that Muslims, Christians, and Jews all believe in the same God. And then a new book comes along and rewrites our history without being verified. To the point that the God of the Bible is not even recognizable.

 

[faithglendale]

So you are defending white man that went from city to city raping women, stealing stuff and killing innocent civilians for what reason?

You're right. That is what the children of Israel did. And not always the way God told them to, but nonetheless, they did kill many in order to take possession of the land sworn to Abraham's descendants. God said the people living on that land served other gods. So, who then in God's eyes, were innocent? He knew who would and who would not ever serve Him, no matter how long they lived on the earth He created.
And by the way, every time they acted unjustly and not according to the word from the Lord, God punished them with death, plagues, and by bringing their new enemies against them, while depriving them of His divine protection. All of which is documented in the Hebrew Bible.

 

[F0uad]

You're right. That is what the children of Israel did. And not always the way God told them to, but nonetheless, they did kill many in order to take possession of the land sworn to Abraham's descendants. God said the people living on that land served other gods. So, who then in God's eyes, were innocent? He knew who would and who would not ever serve Him, no matter how long they lived on the earth He created.
And by the way, every time they acted unjustly and not according to the word from the Lord, God punished them with death, plagues, and by bringing their new enemies against them, while depriving them of His divine protection. All of which is documented in the Hebrew Bible.

You tried to justify the OT i was talking about the Crusades, well if you think that White-Man are justified to rape and kill innocent people (muslims and non-muslims) then you got some real issues.

 

[darkendless]

You tried to justify the OT i was talking about the Crusades, well if you think that White-Man are justified to rape and kill innocent people (muslims and non-muslims) then you got some real issues.

The white man? Are you insinuating that white men are rapists?