Alone forever

[Riverwolf]

But then....how to be alone?

No forward or back.....lost in all time?....or just that portion when you died?
( I recall a Twilight ...Rod Serling...episode on that very note)

We're getting in an area that's so speculative that we might as well become mermaids when we die for all the likelyhood of happening.

I don't focus on what happens after death because it's pretty irrelevant.

 

[Thief]

We're getting in an area that's so speculative that we might as well become mermaids when we die for all the likelyhood of happening.

I don't focus on what happens after death because it's pretty irrelevant.

Irrelevant?

And here you are participating in a religious forum!
In topic thread titled...'Alone Forever'.......(as in eternity)!!!!!!

 

[Riverwolf]

Irrelevant?

And here you are participating in a religious forum!
In topic thread titled...'Alone Forever'.......(as in eternity)!!!!!!

Yup.

It may be irrelevant, but it's also interesting.

 

[Thief]

Yup.

It may be irrelevant, but it's also interesting.

So all the names you mentioned earlier....
You don't actually expect to meet any of them?

No further interaction beyond your last breath?

 

[Riverwolf]

So all the names you mentioned earlier....
You don't actually expect to meet any of them?

No further interaction beyond your last breath?

I expect nothing beyond death.

If Nordic mythology is literal, then the only one I expect to meet is Hel.

I have no intention of dying in battle, so no Valhalla for me.

 

[Thief]

I expect nothing beyond death.

If Nordic mythology is literal, then the only one I expect to meet is Hel.

I have no intention of dying in battle, so no Valhalla for me.

Well then....how does ANY spiritual belief serve you?

Would not man made law be sufficient?..... all the way to the grave?

 

[Riverwolf]

Well then....how does ANY spiritual belief serve you?

Would not man made law be sufficient?..... all the way to the grave?

It's not about death; it's about life.

Spiritual beliefs help me live a better life. Man-made laws just don't cut it, since they're only about don'ts, not dos.

 

[Thief]

It's not about death; it's about life.

Spiritual beliefs help me live a better life. Man-made laws just don't cut it, since they're only about don'ts, not dos.

Ok, but...
If you do not anticipate a spiritual interaction after your last breath....
Then your belief and play of life is what?

Your motivations are spiritual?.....though you will not retain your spirit?

 

[Riverwolf]

Ok, but...
If you do not anticipate a spiritual interaction after your last breath....
Then your belief and play of life is what?

Your motivations are spiritual?.....though you will not retain your spirit?

Asatru is a VERY practical religion; it doesn't focus on stuff like that.

My mother's people didn't have time to philosophize and speculate about the nature of the afterlife, because they were so busy just gathering food for the winter, and then surviving that winter so they could live another summer to prepare for the next winter.

And surviving raids from rival tribes.

 

[Thief]

Asatru is a VERY practical religion; it doesn't focus on stuff like that.

My mother's people didn't have time to philosophize and speculate about the nature of the afterlife, because they were so busy just gathering food for the winter, and then surviving that winter so they could live another summer to prepare for the next winter.

And surviving raids from rival tribes.

Basically...an intense physical existence.

But I always thought native people to be intensely spiritual.
Rituals, prayers, ceremonial events...the whole ten yards.

 

[Riverwolf]

Basically...an intense physical existence.

But I always thought native people to be intensely spiritual.
Rituals, prayers, ceremonial events...the whole ten yards.

That's because there was no difference between physical and spiritual.

The act of survival was in itself a spiritual act.

The Celto-Germanic peoples were no different.

 

[Thief]

That's because there was no difference between physical and spiritual.

The act of survival was in itself a spiritual act.

The Celto-Germanic peoples were no different.

Well and good.
One with earth and elements.....

But you see no continuance?.....and the spiritual life is altogether physical?

Never one without the other?

 

[Riverwolf]

Well and good.
One with earth and elements.....

But you see no continuance?.....and the spiritual life is altogether physical?

Never one without the other?

No, not really.

 

[Thief]

No, not really.

Then your life here and now has what relevance to the spiritual life?
Why respond to spirit if you cannot exist beyond the body?

Don't expect to meet the spirit you believe in?

 

[Riverwolf]

Then your life here and now has what relevance to the spiritual life?

They're the same thing, as I stated.

Why respond to spirit if you cannot exist beyond the body?

Don't expect to meet the spirit you believe in?

I told you, I believe in a form of reincarnation, but only loosely.

I expect nothing after death.

 

[Thief]

I still believe in Something greater than myself.

I believe that life is greater than physical chemistry.

I believe in continuance.

Interaction after the last breath would then be in mind and heart.

Chemistry is all fine and good as long as it holds up.
It won't.

But I also believe in rejection.....judgment.
And the possibility of isolation.

 

[Riverwolf]

I still believe in Something greater than myself.

I believe that life is greater than physical chemistry.

I believe in continuance.

Interaction after the last breath would then be in mind and heart.

Chemistry is all fine and good as long as it holds up.
It won't.

But I also believe in rejection.....judgment.
And the possibility of isolation.

I don't. I'm not trying to convince you of that.

But your much-appreciated cross-examination has helped solidify my beliefs.

 

[Avicious]

Can anyone imagine or would anyone want to be completely alone for eternity?



I believe the scriptures indicate that separation from God is the eternal destiny of anyone who refuses to admit or give up sin and according to the scriptures everyone is guilty of sin. Various descriptions are used to portray what the condition of separation will be like, such as; outer darkness, weeping and gnashing of teeth or burning fire. The Bible also says God is Love. He is the source of love and without His presence I believe love is nonexistent. So my understanding is that being separated from God and His love will also mean being separated from everyone else because love which now connects people together would no longer be active in the state of being separated from God.

Alone as in away from spiritual things (e.g God, Allah, etc.) Or alone away from people, Dissconnected?

 

[Me Myself]

One cannot be "away" from spiritual things.

Al is spirit. That which is not spirit, is not.

 

[InChrist]

Alone as in away from spiritual things (e.g God, Allah, etc.) Or alone away from people, Dissconnected?

Alone as in, by yourself, separated from God and disconnected with all other people.