Alone forever

[Thief]

...remember Led Zeppelin?

'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.

Engrained forever more.

 

[Riverwolf]

Engrained forever more.

Good.

Therefore, my insightful "nature" is not the same "nature" that we were in before the agricultural revolution.

The same word is being used to describe two different, though related, concepts.

 

[Thief]

Good.

Therefore, my insightful "nature" is not the same "nature" that we were in before the agricultural revolution.

The same word is being used to describe two different, though related, concepts.

Your previous post spoke of observation, experience, elder wisdom, and meditative insights.
Your spiritual nature.....is that right?

 

[Riverwolf]

Your previous post spoke of observation, experience, elder wisdom, and meditative insights.
Your spiritual nature.....is that right?

My intellectual nature, actually.

 

[Thief]

My intellectual nature, actually.

So for you....no afterlife?
Not a chance you could be alone...forever?

 

[Riverwolf]

So for you....no afterlife?
Not a chance you could be alone...forever?

I believe in a form of reincarnation, but from an objective standpoint, even that falls flat of any evidence.

There is no objective indication that being alone forever after death is a possibility.

 

[InChrist]

I believe in a form of reincarnation, but from an objective standpoint, even that falls flat of any evidence.

There is no objective indication that being alone forever after death is a possibility.

And how would anyone ever know this side of death what takes place after death unless it was revealed by the Creator of life in the first place?

 

[McBell]

And how would anyone ever know this side of death what takes place after death unless it was revealed by the Creator of life in the first place?

Wait, who "knows" what happens after death?

 

[Riverwolf]

And how would anyone ever know this side of death what takes place after death unless it was revealed by the Creator of life in the first place?

We don't. I have faith, just as you have faith that a Creator of life revealed what happens.

 

[Thief]

I believe in a form of reincarnation, but from an objective standpoint, even that falls flat of any evidence.

There is no objective indication that being alone forever after death is a possibility.

With science as witness....the formation of Man came many centuries after the 'big bang.

God would then be alone at great length.

And this universe does seem a great expanse.

If God and heaven is somewhere.....
could you not be somewhere else at great length?

Seems to stand to reason.

 

[Riverwolf]

With science as witness....the formation of Man came many centuries after the 'big bang.

God would then be alone at great length.

And this universe does seem a great expanse.

If God and heaven is somewhere.....
could you not be somewhere else at great length?

Seems to stand to reason.

The Gods are not alone, for Odin was born one of three, the other two being Vili and Ve.

The only First Being who was alone first, and probably even now, is Surt, who is the one who will eventually break out of Muspelheim and cover the world in flame, killing everything save for a few survivors.

Even Ymir wasn't alone, for he had Auðumbla's milk to drink from, as she liked Buri out of the ice of Niflheim.

Neither the living nor the dead can exist in Muspelheim or Niflheim. Wherever the dead is, there is someone.

So, see how the entire argument shifts when a different mythology is used as a base?

 

[Thief]

The Gods are not alone, for Odin was born one of three, the other two being Vili and Ve.

The only First Being who was alone first, and probably even now, is Surt, who is the one who will eventually break out of Muspelheim and cover the world in flame, killing everything save for a few survivors.

Even Ymir wasn't alone, for he had Auðumbla's milk to drink from, as she liked Buri out of the ice of Niflheim.

Neither the living nor the dead can exist in Muspelheim or Niflheim. Wherever the dead is, there is someone.

So, see how the entire argument shifts when a different mythology is used as a base?

Not yet.
I see parallels to what I believe.
The names are different.
But the overall effect appears the same.

No place to be alone?...forever?

 

[Riverwolf]

Not yet.
I see parallels to what I believe.
The names are different.
But the overall effect appears the same.

No place to be alone?...forever?

Nope.

Not that we could ever go.

Even Surt in some accounts is accompanied by other Fire Jotnar when he finally breaks free.

 

[Thief]

Nope.

Not that we could ever go.

Even Surt in some accounts is accompanied by other Fire Jotnar when he finally breaks free.

well ok...but....the sky over my head has been described as more than enormous.
The universe is of size beyond comprehension.

And so full of life that by no means can you be out of ear shot of another?

 

[Riverwolf]

well ok...but....the sky over my head has been described as more than enormous.
The universe is of size beyond comprehension.

And so full of life that by no means can you be out of ear shot of another?

"I" will likely never be in that sky. I intend to stay right bloody here on Earth, thank you very much.

 

[Thief]

"I" will likely never be in that sky. I intend to stay right bloody here on Earth, thank you very much.

I assume then....in spirit form?

 

[Riverwolf]

I assume then....in spirit form?

As I said, I believe in a form of reincarnation.

Unless it operates from planet-to-planet (not likely), I'd still remain right here.

'Sides, in spirit form, I'd imagine that I'd be able to fly. If I'm in space, I'll just come right back to earth.

 

[Thief]

As I said, I believe in a form of reincarnation.

Unless it operates from planet-to-planet (not likely), I'd still remain right here.

'Sides, in spirit form, I'd imagine that I'd be able to fly. If I'm in space, I'll just come right back to earth.

Well said.....good luck.

 

[Riverwolf]

Well said.....good luck.

No need for luck.

After all, spirits are incorporeal. There's no forward, backward, etc. Perfect vision all around in all spectrums since there's no eyes to filter out the ones we can't see in life. No need to worry about location since spirits don't have beginnings or ends.

And, in any case, ghosts have a reputation for desiring solitude, anyway.

 

[Thief]

No need for luck.

After all, spirits are incorporeal. There's no forward, backward, etc. Perfect vision all around in all spectrums since there's no eyes to filter out the ones we can't see in life. No need to worry about location since spirits don't have beginnings or ends.

And, in any case, ghosts have a reputation for desiring solitude, anyway.

But then....how to be alone?

No forward or back.....lost in all time?....or just that portion when you died?
( I recall a Twilight ...Rod Serling...episode on that very note)