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am i going to hell

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Interesting, what does the scriptures say.

There's no reference to hell in the Tanakh ("O.T."), and sheol was not viewed as hell. Personally, I have no belief in hell nor heaven, and my attitude is whatever happens, happens.
 

arthra

Baha'i
Just curious as to wether the followers of abrahamic religions here believe Buddhists are worshipping FALSE idols and are hellbound.

I will respect any thoughts either way, as long as your truthfull I will respect that.

If yes please elaborate.

While Baha'is would probably be considered "Abrahamic" we also accept the Buddha as a Manifestation of the Ineffable.. As far as idols go they probably can only take you as far as they can... Early Buddhist representations were symbolic but the Buddha Himself was rarely portrayed.

As far as hell goes you'll find references to it in Buddhism as well as other religions...

They say: 'Where is Paradise, and where is Hell?' Say: 'The one is reunion with Me; the other thine own self..."

~ Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 132
 

payak

Active Member
My answer was "I don't know". That hardly shows me as some super intelligent philosopher. :sarcastic It shows the opposite.

Sorry I misunderstood.

My question as you know was who here of the abrahamic faiths believes as a Buddhist I will go to hell.

Your final answer,I don't know.

As a follower of yeshua don't you have an oppinion either way according to your scriptures.
 

payak

Active Member
While Baha'is would probably be considered "Abrahamic" we also accept the Buddha as a Manifestation of the Ineffable.. As far as idols go they probably can only take you as far as they can... Early Buddhist representations were symbolic but the Buddha Himself was rarely portrayed.

As far as hell goes you'll find references to it in Buddhism as well as other religions...

They say: 'Where is Paradise, and where is Hell?' Say: 'The one is reunion with Me; the other thine own self..."

~ Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 132

Thankyou.
 

captainbryce

Active Member
Just curious as to wether the followers of abrahamic religions here believe Buddhists are worshipping FALSE idols and are hellbound.

I will respect any thoughts either way, as long as your truthfull I will respect that.

If yes please elaborate.
I'm a Christians, so obviously I believe in the Abrahamic God, and his son, the savior Jesus Christ. But without knowing more about you, it would be impossible for me to have any idea about whether or not you were hellbound. Not all Buddhists worship idols, although it is conceivable that many do.

1) Do you worship or revere the Buddha as a "god", or do you just view him as an inspirational teacher of a philosophy that you believe in? If you worship him as a god, then you are worshiping a false idol. If not, then the way you practice Buddhism isn't necessarily comparably to idolatry.

2) Buddha never specifically endorsed a belief in Jesus Christ as the messiah, however that doesn't mean that all proponents of his philosophy have rejected such teachings. I don't believe that Buddhism and Christianity are mutually exclusive (in the way that most other religions are). One can in fact be Christian and Buddhist at the same time (although admittedly most are not). So, do you as a Buddhist accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior, do you reject him outright, or are you agnostic about him?

3) Even people who commit sin out of ignorance, or those who have never come to know Jesus Christ aren't necessarily hell bound. As a Christian, I believe that every righteous person will have the opportunity to come to know Christ and live in God's heavenly kingdom. The bible says that the Lord judges in righteousness and people are ultimately held accountable to what they know, rather than what they don't know. People will be judged according to their deeds.

4) Being a sinner doesn't automatically make someone hell bound. Being an unrepentant who rejects the savior is what makes someone hell bound. The only nonredeemable sin (according to the bible) is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. So, have you ever cursed the Holy Spirit? If not, then you're not hell bound until you reject the salvation of Christ.
 

payak

Active Member
I believe if there is a hell, I don't know as I am yet to have seen proof.

It came before our religions and its our behaviour not our religion or lack of it that will send you there if it infact exists.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Sorry I misunderstood.

My question as you know was who here of the abrahamic faiths believes as a Buddhist I will go to hell.

Your final answer,I don't know.

As a follower of yeshua don't you have an oppinion either way according to your scriptures.

I study it a lot. I am not 100% sure what hell even is. I know it isn't some "spiritual oven", but as to whether it's the grave, a state of mind, or a separation from God I am not sure of that. I am not only studying my scripture, but the beliefs of both Christians and Jews. Jews don't believe in hell, at least the ones I've heard. I studied with the JWs before I switched over to Baptist, and the JWs don't believe in hell- they believe the spirit is destroyed (I don't think I believe that spirits are destroyed, either, however) but my understanding of hell was challenged by those studies.

But my belief is that God is a God of mercy and my beliefs will reflect that.
 

payak

Active Member
I'm a Christians, so obviously I believe in the Abrahamic God, and his son, the savior Jesus Christ. But without knowing more about you, it would be impossible for me to have any idea about whether or not you were hellbound. Not all Buddhists worship idols, although it is conceivable that many do.

1) Do you worship or revere the Buddha as a "god", or do you just view him as an inspirational teacher of a philosophy that you believe in? If you worship him as a god, then you are worshiping a false idol. If not, then the way you practice Buddhism isn't necessarily comparably to idolatry.

2) Buddha never specifically endorsed a belief in Jesus Christ as the messiah, however that doesn't mean that all proponents of his philosophy have rejected such teachings. I don't believe that Buddhism and Christianity are mutually exclusive (in the way that most other religions are). One can in fact be Christian and Buddhist at the same time (although admittedly most are not). So, do you as a Buddhist accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior, do you reject him outright, or are you agnostic about him?

3) Even people who commit sin out of ignorance, or those who have never come to know Jesus Christ aren't necessarily hell bound. As a Christian, I believe that every righteous person will have the opportunity to come to know Christ and live in God's heavenly kingdom. The bible says that the Lord judges in righteousness and people are ultimately held accountable to what they know, rather than what they don't know. People will be judged according to their deeds.

4) Being a sinner doesn't automatically make someone hell bound. Being an unrepentant who rejects the savior is what makes someone hell bound. The only nonredeemable sin (according to the bible) is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. So, have you ever cursed the Holy Spirit? If not, then you're not hell bound until you reject the salvation of Christ.

To me Buddha was a teacher not a god, someone who's teachings I attempt to emulate to better myself.

I believe jesus was a man,with a philosophy,a peaceful man but not a god or the son of.

I neither believe nor disbelieve in god as I am yet to see him.

believe only what makes sense to you, not just what we are told to be,including buddhas words.
 

payak

Active Member
I study it a lot. I am not 100% sure what hell even is. I know it isn't some "spiritual oven", but as to whether it's the grave, a state of mind, or a separation from God I am not sure of that. I am not only studying my scripture, but the beliefs of both Christians and Jews. Jews don't believe in hell, at least the ones I've heard. I studied with the JWs before I switched over to Baptist, and the JWs don't believe in hell- they believe the spirit is destroyed (I don't think I believe that spirits are destroyed, either, however) but my understanding of hell was challenged by those studies.

But my belief is that God is a God of mercy and my beliefs will reflect that.

Thankyou, Buddha says be a light unto yourself.
thankyou for the response, hell could be a possibility, whatever it is.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
1) Do[es one] worship or revere the Buddha as a "god", or do[es one] just view him as an inspirational teacher of a philosophy that you believe in? If you worship him as a god, then you are worshiping a false idol. If not, then the way you practice Buddhism isn't necessarily comparably to idolatry.

2) Buddha never specifically endorsed a belief in Jesus Christ as the messiah, however that doesn't mean that all proponents of his philosophy have rejected such teachings.

The Buddha lived before Jesus. Also, this might interest you:

• Was the Buddha a God?

He was not, nor did he claim to be. He was a man who taught a path to enlightenment from his own experience.

• Do Buddhists Worship Idols?

Buddhists sometimes pay respect to images of the Buddha, not in worship, nor to ask for favours. A statue of the Buddha with hands rested gently in its lap and a compassionate smile reminds us to strive to develop peace and love within ourselves. Bowing to the statue is an expression of gratitude for the teaching.
-- A Basic Buddhism Guide: 5 Minute Introduction
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Just curious as to wether the followers of abrahamic religions here believe Buddhists are worshipping FALSE idols and are hellbound.

I will respect any thoughts either way, as long as your truthfull I will respect that.

If yes please elaborate.

Only god knows based on intentions of the heart. Based on intentions I'd think a lot of Buddhists may be better off than most Christians, as far as being "saved".
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Only god knows based on intentions of the heart. Based on intentions I'd think a lot of Buddhists may be better off than most Christians, as far as being "saved".
Interesting. Right back to Buddhist thought. (Yes, there is hell in Buddhism...but not like the Christian idea of hell.)

"Intention, I tell you, is kamma. {Pali word for karma.} Intending, one does kamma by way of body, speech, & intellect.

-source-
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Interesting. Right back to Buddhist thought. (Yes, there is hell in Buddhism...but not like the Christian idea of hell.)

"Intention, I tell you, is kamma. {Pali word for karma.} Intending, one does kamma by way of body, speech, & intellect.

-source-

For buddhism I wouldn't ask about going to hell but whether or not a buddhist would stay in hell. Goal being oneness for a Christian or Buddhist.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I can't believe it took this long for me to remember that some Buddhists make it a goal to be reborn in Hell. :)
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I can't believe it took this long for me to remember that some Buddhists make it a goal to be reborn in Hell. :)
Isn't that for the Buddha's that feel they need to come back and enlighten more people. That is hardcore.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
That is one of putting it. Another is that it is for themselves. Yet another, that it is for everone's sake.

At some level, there is no meaningful difference.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
I can't believe it took this long for me to remember that some Buddhists make it a goal to be reborn in Hell. :)
Well, there is always the joke that the reason why bodhisattvas keep coming back is that they are addicted to the material realm. :eek:
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Most Jews really do not believe in hell-- beyond their mother-in-law that is.

And own mother. :run:



Interesting, what does the scriptures say.

Nothing. Which is why we dont believe in it.



In before a wild Shermana appears and throws Gehinnom around.





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I always have to think of Sithrak whenever i see these threads.

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