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Am I the only one who finds Slavery to be "beautiful"?

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Domestic servants in Europe are Employees and have the same rights as any other employee.
When I was small my mother always employed a house maid to help her.

My Maternal Grand father. had a Cook housekeeper, a butler, a nanny, a chauffeur and two gardeners. My Paternal Grand father had a large household with a governess, butler, ladies maid footman ,housekeeper, kitchen staff, housemaids, laundry staff, gardeners, stable hands and coach men.
None were slaves all were paid, all were free to leave.
Times have changed and it has been very unusual to have a fully staffed house since the 1920's.

Servants were never treated as Sex slaves. Though some were known to be seduced by both members of families, and by house staff.

Yes employees.

Do you think i may be offensive if i say i wish such a job for your daughter ?
If you think it is offensive if wishing it for your daughter then how you see it as a normal job and to be similar to other jobs.

For me and honestly saying slavery and maids are 2 faces of one coin.

Husbands sleeping with domestic helpers! - Sowetan LIVE

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A maid is not a Slave - YouTube
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
For some reason I am fascinated by the English painting of the Sultan's harems during the Ottoman rule.
The images are so beautiful and amazing I just can't help but be in awe. The other thing is not the art but the act of enslavement by the Ottoman's which was of course conquest. I understand the atrocities of slavery but at the same time I am just baffled by what slave owners would have in such ancient times.

Princesses of various lands were taken to the Sultan's palace where they all served as concubines to bare the Sultan a child. One of my favorite examples of this is Suleiman and his love of his slave girl Hurem Sultan who later became his wife.

Perhaps my love of something immoral is just stupid, I do not know. The old Ottoman idea of royal slavery just seems so romantic in a very cruel way.
For the sake of my faith in humanity, I hope you are the only one.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
The OP has a submission fetish and it's likely a sexual thing.

:)

Let's give the OP'er the benefit of the doubt. We all have specific thoughts at times and need someone to understand us. Sometimes those thoughts are innocent, but give wrong impression to others.

Let's all love each other and play video games :D
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Yes employees.

Do you think i may be offensive if i say i wish such a job for your daughter ?
If you think it is offensive if wishing it for your daughter then how you see it as a normal job and to be similar to other jobs.

For me and honestly saying slavery and maids are 2 faces of one coin.

Husbands sleeping with domestic helpers! - Sowetan LIVE

[youtube]Vs8k2nXJh6I[/youtube]
A maid is not a Slave - YouTube

There is nothing denigrating in working in domistic service.
some people far prefer to do so than work in a factory or catering.
It is not some thing people are forced to do, it is something they choose to do. Some positions can be highly paid and well respected, such as butler house keeper govrrness or nurse.
Domestic servents are covred by the same conditions of employment as every one else.

Of course some countries and societies have other values. And treat them very badly. This says more about those societies than it dose about the servants.
 
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CMike

Well-Known Member
I think this is unfair. We all should get sex slaves.

Obama has given out ObamaPhones, how about ObamaSlaves?

Why should only the rich benefit from having a sex slave?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
There is nothing denigrating in working in domistic service.
some people far prefer to do so than work in a factory or catering.
It is not some thing people are forced to do, it is something they choose to do. Some positions can be highly paid and well respected, such as butler house keeper govrrness or nurse.
Domestic servents are covred by the same conditions of employment as every one else.

Of course some countries and societies have other values. And treat them very badly. This says more about those societies than it dose about the servants.

Do you think it is denigrating for women to work as prostitute or it is kind of job that is highly paid and should be respected as well ?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I think this is unfair. We all should get sex slaves.

Obama has given out ObamaPhones, how about ObamaSlaves?

Why should only the rich benefit from having a sex slave?

Sex isn't that expensive nowadays. no need to have sex slaves since you can have a girlfriend today and another tomorrow without costing you a penny.

Except if you are ugly and poor,then i can understand your feeling and anger. :D
 
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Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Agreed... unless it's Mario Kart. I get very short-tempered playing Mario Kart and will say things to you that I do not mean, and will probably regret later on. :eek:

You go ahead and say whatever you wanna say, it only makes the game more fun :D
But leave my man boobs out of it, kay :rolleyes:
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Do you think it is denigrating for women to work as prostitute or it is kind of job that is highly paid and should be respected as well ?

Domestic staff are not Prostitutes.
You would need to have a very warped sense of social norms to think they might be.

May be your own culture thinks it self so superior that it can treat its employees as sex slaves.
However international law says otherwise,
In international law to own slaves or to enslave others is totally illegal, and is enshrined in human rights law.

Sex slavery is abhorrent.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Domestic staff are not Prostitutes.
You would need to have a very warped sense of social norms to think they might be.

May be your own culture thinks it self so superior that it can treat its employees as sex slaves.
However international law says otherwise,
In international law to own slaves or to enslave others is totally illegal, and is enshrined in human rights law.

Sex slavery is abhorrent.

I didn't ask you about domestic helpers but about prostitutes that are working and employed to have sex with men which is allowed in many irreligious countries around the globe.

So asking again do you think such kind of filthy job is a respected one according to your wonderful culture and prostitution isn't allowed in the Muslim world because it humiliates women.

Such as this photo in London.

What is your opinion ?

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Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I didn't ask you about domestic helpers but about prostitutes that are working and employed to have sex with men which is allowed in many irreligious countries around the globe.

So asking again do you think such kind of filthy job is a respected one according to your wonderful culture and prostitution isn't allowed in the Muslim world because it humiliates women.

Such as is this photo in London.

What is your opinion ?

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It is interesting that you should include that particular picture... as it was taken the illustrate the influx of Foreign prostitutes into london just prior to the london Olympics, who came to take advantage of the many away from home visitors and foreign spectators.

There is a difference between Prostitution being legal and being respected.

In the UK it is neither legal nor respected.
However it has been going on since time immemorial, both here and in all other countries including both Christian and Muslim.

In some countries and at some times, courtezans have been both legal and respected.

There has not been a time when Prostitution has not flourished.

The Prostitution Districts in most cities are both well known and well frequented, by both Christian and Muslim men.

When I lived in Bradford most prostitution was controlled by the Pakistani Muslim community. However there were a large number of individual incomer prostitutes of various races. Recent court cases have brought out the the large contribution muslim Pakistanis have played in the illegal trade in underage girls in various cities in the UK.

Upper class Call girls serving hotels in the better areas of london have grown rich servicing the sexual needs of Middle Eastern business men and their leaders.
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
When I lived in Bradford most prostitution was controlled by the Pakistani Muslim community. However there were a large number of individual incomer prostitutes of various races. Recent court cases have brought out the the large contribution muslim Pakistanis have played in the illegal trade in underage girls in various cities in the UK.

Upper class Call girls serving hotels in the better areas of london have grown rich servicing the sexual needs of Middle Eastern business men and their leaders.

So Muslims are the ones responsible about prostitution in your homeland,maybe Muslims are also responsible that British girls are losing their virginity at very young age. :facepalm:

British girls: Three partners by the age of 14
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
So Muslims are the ones responsible about prostitution in your homeland,maybe Muslims are also responsible that British girls are losing their virginity at very young age. :facepalm:

British girls: Three partners by the age of 14

Of course to suggest that it is only Muslim men would be wrong. Though they have been the major perpetrators in many of the recent serious cases in many cities including the horrendous cases in Rochdale and Oxford, telford and Derby.

See Rochdale sex trafficking gang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Oxford sex gang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
FearGod, you're one to criticize the West on sexual matters when there's child brides, pederasty and rampant homosexuality (due to the segregation of the sexes; how hypocritical) and a huge rape problem in Arab Muslim cultures. Clean up your own glass house before you dare to throw stones.
 
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