Draka
Wonder Woman
If most Christians become atheists then we would have far more atheists and far less Christians in the world.
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American Girl Wants to Marry MUSLIM Man, People's Reactions
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That's the point.
since Atheism not a religion, so Islam is first religion then Christianity
Draka
Wonder Woman
?What?That's the point.
since Atheism not a religion, so Islam is first religion then Christianity
Christianity has more adherents than Islam in the world. Not that majority makes anyone right.
That's the point.
since Atheism not a religion, so Islam is first religion then Christianity
There are far more Christians than atheists in the world, Godobeyer.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Atheists are a minority. And while it may be true that most atheists were once Christian, you have to also take into account that just may be because Christianity is the largest religion in the world, thus there are going to be more from that religion in the atheist or agnostic category than any other.
Actually I expect most atheists are Chinese, and have never been Christian.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Would that be because Buddhism is included? If one looks at just those with no claimed religion of any kind then I think the numbers would probably be different.
Really neither here nor there though. The point is atheists are a minority, and Christians are a majority. I really don't see how the existence of atheists somehow makes Islam the "first religion", whatever that means.
Really neither here nor there though. The point is atheists are a minority, and Christians are a majority. I really don't see how the existence of atheists somehow makes Islam the "first religion", whatever that means.
Would that be because Buddhism is included? If one looks at just those with no claimed religion of any kind then I think the numbers would probably be different.
Really neither here nor there though. The point is atheists are a minority, and Christians are a majority. I really don't see how the existence of atheists somehow makes Islam the "first religion", whatever that means.
Nah, this seems to be irreligious atheism. Fuzzy to define at the best of times of course.
To quibble, Christians are a plurality
Force of numbers doesn't really get us anywhere, I agree. There are more Christians than Muslims, more Muslims than Hindus, more Hindus than Buddhists. I'm not clamouring to climb up to the most numerous faith.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Well with the freedom we have without being a Muslim, why would we want to lose that bv?.
That's what I assumed, but some of your posts seemed to contradict that entirely, by claiming that your particular version of Islam was the correct version as it had the most adherents.
Furthermore, you suggested that some rules are not a personal choice, since they are followed by the cast majority. It is ALWAYS a personal choice. Religion does not confer any special ability to avoid personal responsibility.
Me? I never for a moment suggested that majority is an effective way to determine what is right. In fact I was arguing against that very point.
My 'belief' system accounts for a small percentage of people, so that's pretty self-evident.
This is frankly rubbish. Why on earth would you think most Christians have become atheists? Define atheism.
I 100000000% agree. But, and I hesitate to raise this, if you think you've got the Truth direct from God, then that becomes a trickier conversation. And if the guy over the hill has a contradicting Truth....well...screw him. He's wrong. We already HAVE the Truth. Right?
Yes with one exception. Since the the Truth I have from God is to know that all paths have elements of the Truth and that I should not presume to judge between them, then I avoid the all-too-common situation you noted.
All paths?
That seems overly inclusive. If I dream up a path (Scientology, I'm looking at you) then there would be no reason to assume it's sourced from God.
Still, I get your point, although the metaphorical guy over the Hill might still have an issue.
Good points. I was thinking of the major religions not cults.
Sakeenah
Well-Known Member
That's your opinion..I as a Muslim belief I have freedom. Anyways you are entitled to your preferences.
You could have simply said " I wouldnt want to marry a muslim because I wouldnt feel free "
But the statement " Why would anyone want to marry a muslim ?"
Makes you seem like a arrogant islamophobe..just my opinon
Draka
Wonder Woman
Questions. If a non-Muslim woman marries a Muslim man is it expected of her to change her religion? And if not, would it be okay for her to have say in how the children are raised religiously? If a Muslim man marries a Christian woman could she still baptize her children if she wanted to? Have them go to church with her?
I will may creat soon a thread about this matter , and I would like to make a poll !
Shad
Veteran Member
Also consider that a number of nations have social taboos and laws which make being an open atheist very difficult. I wonder how many atheists exist in Muslim nations given the violence that follows being open about it. Heck in the States there are not laws against atheist but the social taboo still exists.