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An atheist, lefthanded polytheist, and a Muslim go in to a bar

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It's not for you or me to understand :).

I can respect that, but if all signs show there are conflicts, I would see also if there is alternative plan. A plan if enough support, would bring peace on earth and would have always brought peace.
 

The Hammer

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I can respect that, but if all signs is conflict, I would see also if there is alternative plan.

My opinion is when the world unites as one. There will be an even bigger problem to be had, to keep the cycle moving. And I dread the day.
 

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My opinion is when the world unites as one. There will be an even bigger problem to be had, to keep the cycle moving. And I dread the day.

I don't understand your viewpoint really. But you are being short in phrases, so that's not on me to understand. It's on you to elaborate.
 

The Hammer

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I don't understand your viewpoint really. But you are being short in phrases, so that's not on me to understand. It's on you to elaborate.

It's pretty simple to see. If one knows what to look for. If we are constantly fighting, so that creation continues (since creation and destruction are the same). Then when we unite, there will be something even bigger and deadlier thing to fight, to keep the cycle spinning.

Edit: I missed a word. Thing
 
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It's pretty simple to see. If one knows what to look for. If we are constantly fighting, so that creation continues (since creation and destruction are the same). Then when we unite, there will be something even bigger and deadlier to fight, to keep the cycle spinning.

These are not meaningful defined. It's too short. The phrases all need elaboration. They mean something to you, but I don't know what you mean if you don't elaborate.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
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Show me anyone thinking atheists eat babies and takes that as "majority"?
I'm an atheist! I've eaten rack of lamb. A lamb is, by definition a baby! Oh, wow, now you've shown me that I'll be so glad you you tell me that Muslims don't eat lamb, as well!
 

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I'm an atheist! I've eaten rack of lamb. A lamb is, by definition a baby! Oh, wow, now you've shown me that I'll be so glad you you tell me that Muslims don't eat lamb, as well!

The dumb Muslim killed them over nothing I see! He misunderstood them and thought they killed a human baby!
 

The Hammer

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These are not meaningful defined. It's too short. The phrases all need elaboration. They mean something to you, but I don't know what you mean if you don't elaborate.

If you can't read between the lines that's not my problem. Ask Allah.
 

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If you can't read between the lines that's not my problem. Ask Allah.

The Quran talks about two plans really, the sorcerers (sahers) and Kahens (which is a sorcerer but that talks to the devils from Jinn and is a channeler of their will to others) have a plan and Iblis is on top, and God has a plan which has over all plan and then every year, updates to the plan on night of Qadr in summary to Imam and Angels, and they "reveal" "commands" to whoever they wish to that night, and then there is also updates and details through out the days after laylatal qadr (laylatal qadr summary of plan is revealed for the year), and God's plan will win.

So I know what Quran says. I'm asking your viewpoint.
 

The Hammer

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The Quran talks about two plans really, the sorcerers (sahers) and Kahens (which is a sorcerer but that talks to the devils from Jinn and is a channeler of their will to others) have a plan and Iblis is on top, and God has a plan which has over all plan and then every year, updates to the plan on night of Qadr in summary to Imam and Angels, and they "reveal" "commands" to whoever they wish to that night, and then there is also updates and details through out the days after laylatal qadr (laylatal qadr summary of plan is revealed for the year), and God's plan will win.

So I know what Quran says. I'm asking your viewpoint.

I told you my viewpoint. It confused you. So I said ask Allah to clarify my viewpoint. Because I can't say much more then I already have.
 

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Are you saying Prophets (a) and close Angels such as Gabriel (a) and Michael (a) and Mohammad (s) and his successors (a) were all sorcerers in on the grand plan and it's like the matrix, the resistance is just part of control?

Or is that that Mohammad (s) lied to us or that Gabriel (a) lied to him?

Yazid the Kahen, the leader of the illuminati of that time, that murdered Imam Hussain (a), it's all part one of plan? They both believe the same thing and are just playing with our minds and feigning conflict to us? The conflict is just a big show and act, there is none?

Yahya (a) (John the Baptist) head given to a prostitute by the king and leader of the Kahens of that time, all this is just a one plan?

There is just one plan, everyone playing pretend conflict?
 

The Hammer

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I told you my viewpoint. It confused you. So I said ask Allah to clarify my viewpoint. Because I can't say much more then I already have.

I'll try again. Fate encompasses both creation an destruction as that's what our creators desire, to create. Creation is like a coin, one side to create, the other to destroy. In order to create something, another thing must be destroyed; they are intimately linked. So if the entire world unites, and we are no longer trying to destroy each other; something else will step into the shoes and role of destruction. Something bigger then just Us.
 

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I'll try again. Fate encompasses both creation an destruction as that's what our creators desire, to create. Creation is like a coin, one side to create, the other to destroy. In order to create something, another thing must be destroyed; they are intimately linked. So if the entire world unites, and we are no longer trying to destroy each other; something else will step into the shoes and role of destruction. Something bigger then just Us.
Peace impossible and not even sought. Nice to know.
 

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It can be sought. It will just always remain slightly out of reach.


Progress not perfection.

We'll try to reach for it never the less, and only join forces who believe in peace as something always meant to have been, and one day will be.
 
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