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An honest question for women ...

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
I don't find promiscuity sleazy unless you're lying to the other person about your pursuits. Do not assume a sexual experience implies anything more.
 

trdash

Member
Can someone define what they mean by sexual objectification? The definition I am aware of, from the American Psychological Task Force of the Sexualization of women, is:

· When the person’s values comes only from her sexual appeal or behavior, at the exclusion of other characteristics
· Being made into a thing for others’ sexual use, rather than seen as a person with the capacity for independent action and decision making

Normal flirting or having good friends joke around at work is not sexual objectification.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Harsh truth, Shy.
I wish I knew why guys and girls act this way. I can't find the logic at all.

Honestly, it makes it hard to be sympathetic when someone gets seriously harmed or hurt due to their own bad taste, low standards and poor judge of character, and then makes a habit of it.
 
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Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Unlike shy I wont say all humans are idiots. I have to bw careful before sentencing anyone to that form of generalization. I guess living in the second largest state, you see a lot. I've seen women objectify men and vice versa but I have also seen the most stupidest women get with guys that flat out, in front of their faces guys who would say "shut up B***h you talk too much" my inital reaction right after the female laughs it off is WOOOOOOW.

I have heard and seen women justify infidelity by saying "at least he is practicing safe sex." I have seen women who wear short, short, short, short, short, short, short, skirts in the winter time in grocery markets. I am sorry sometimes I tend to think some women want to objectify themselves and make fools of themselves. Hence why some women get into relationships such as the ones described

Makes me think why I walk around face palming all them time
 
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Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Honestly, it makes it hard to be sympathetic when someone gets seriously harmed or hurt due to their own bad taste, low standards and poor judge of character, and then makes a habit of it.

Except when you realize most people who repeatedly engage in such patterns have little conscious control over getting out of them. I can feel sympathy for such people, but still have little respect for them.
 

Raskolnikov

New Member
Cheap and easy sex is degrading for both parties. It displays a lack of responsibility and respect their partner and themselves.. I think sex is supposed to be personal and intimate - along with physical gratification it should have also emotional meaning. It's an act of giving yourself to someone, and to readily give yourself to someone of questionable character or to a complete stranger shows a lack of class and dignity. It's hard for me to respect someone who would treat their own body as something to be used and discarded.

I have to disagree. If both parties are only looking for some good sex, I don't think there's anything degrading or irresponsible about it. There's nothing inherent about sex that means it should or has to be an emotional encounter with more than just physical gratification as a goal. It's like the difference between an action movie and a quality drama. There's nothing wrong with watching Predator, even though it's just mindless fun with no real deeper meaning.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
doppelgänger;2472788 said:
No deeper meaning?! We are talking about the 1987 Schwarzenegger movie, right?

Not everyone recognizes art when they see it. No accounting for taste I suppose.
 

Chisti

Active Member
The thing about Australian society is that most women are xenophobic, so they miss out on 'nice guys' from other ethnic groups (and most ethnic guys are more or less nice because their financial and immigrant status will force them to be).

This is quite unlike UK or US, since these countries are multicultural, so people there are more open-minded than the ones in parochial societies like Aus or NZ.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
... especially women who complain that they're being sexually objectified. Would you mind if a good-looking person were to objectify you? Are you offended only when ugly people do that?

Just an honest question.



when one objectifies another, they are ugly
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
... especially women who complain that they're being sexually objectified. Would you mind if a good-looking person were to objectify you? Are you offended only when ugly people do that?

Just an honest question.

Sexual objectification is akin to, say, racism. In both cases, you are being reduced to one aspect of yourself. So you could just as easily ask if you would mind if a good looking person treated you in a racist manner, or if you are only offended when an ugly person does so.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Sexual objectification is akin to, say, racism. In both cases, you are being reduced to one aspect of yourself. So you could just as easily ask if you would mind if a good looking person treated you in a racist manner, or if you are only offended when an ugly person does so.

But it's DIFFERENT, Phil! Sex is different than ethnicity because women and men are all sexual in nature! Don't you see? We're wired to want to hump each other's brains out, and it's only natural to objectify somebody else because that's just the way it IS. And if any feminist has a problem with it.....well.....she's just being a grumpy nasty ***** that doesn't know how to have fun at the hands of a man who can show her a good time!

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That made me nauseous writing it. Anyway, I agree with what you'd stated. Thought I'd go ahead and save the feminism bashers some breath and state their case for them. ;)
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat
No I wouldn't like it no matter who it is. Personality is part of what makes me attracted to someone and if a handsome person acts like a pig-jerk then I'm going to find them ugly.

If I were to get a nice compliment though that's another story. No matter who it is from, I'd feel really warm and touched, ugly, pretty, old or young. I don't like being objectified no matter who it is.

I'm being perfectly honest. I've never felt nice from being whistled at or shouted at "hey sexy" or something along the lines. It's rude and certainly won't make me want to talk to that person. If they can only see me this way, I'll only see them as pig-jerks.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
Seriously, though, a man will never be able to fully enjoy a woman until he also subjectifies her. There must be a union between the inner and the outer, the subject and the object, masculine and feminine, etc.
 
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