An irrefutable proof that Jesus is God

[Bethel]

. It makes sense he is the light by which everything was created, and they the exalted ones are the ones who took rest, not God, because God doesn't need rest.

Are you aware that your Mahdi, your returning "savior", is the Christian "Anti-Christ"?

 

[Bethel]

Did he really die . Truth is a matter of insights and perception. .

Yes, Christ really died and really rose from the dead.

Also, Jesus says that He is the Truth. John 14:6

 

[Link]

Are you aware that your Mahdi, your returning "savior", is the Christian "Anti-Christ"?

How can be an Anti-Christ when he is an anointed king himself by God?

 

[Link]

Yes, Christ really died.

Also, Jesus says that He is the Truth. John 14:6

The Ahlulbayt say that about themselves too.

 

[firedragon]

I believe and say that Revelation 2:23 is an irrefutable proof that Jesus is God.

Do you even know who wrote Revelations?

 

[Bethel]

I don't need to go to any websites. I know what the errors are. I can point you out several right now.

Acts records the burial place of the Patriarchs as Shchem, whereas Bereschit (Genesis) records it as Chevron.

Paul claims he was a Pharisee, the absolute pinnacle of a Pharisee, yet claims he worked on behalf of the High Priest going about persecuting Christians. This is wrong, because the High Priest was at that time a Sadducee - this is the equivalent of a Communist working for Margaret Thatcher or Ronald Reagan. He also claims he was on his way to Syrian Damascus on behalf of said Priest - a place where the High Priest had no jurisdiction.

Ok, so you didnt prove that Paul was not persecuting Christians.
He said he did, and Jesus said He did, and you say they are lying.
Good luck with that...


also..
Saying that Paul had no "jurisdiction", as trying to prove He was not allowed to travel wherever he wanted to go, is a silly idea and a ridiculous statement.
Paul was a Roman Citizen, a Jew, a Pharisee, and an Apostle.
He didnt need a VISA to travel around Israel.
Whoever gave you this idea, lied to you.
Avoid them = ASAP.

 

[1213]

I believe and say that Revelation 2:23 is an irrefutable proof that Jesus is God.

and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.

Look carefully, Jesus says that he is He who knows the inner man and will judge man.
But there is only one who knows the inner man and will be the judge in the end, and that is God.
Conclusion: Jesus is God.
...
He is truly the creator of all things.

Sorry, I think you have wrong interpretation. For example, because Bible tells Jesus is the image of God, who according to his own words could do nothing without God.

… is the image of the invisible God…
Colossians 1:14-

I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don't seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me.
John 5:30

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Have you not yet heard?? Christianity is not Judaism.

No crap? Really? I haven't heard.
Still doesn't excuse or pardon Christianity and the Gospels for getting it very wrong.

 

[Bethel]

Paul claims he was a Pharisee, the absolute pinnacle of a Pharisee, yet claims he worked on behalf of the High Priest going about persecuting Christians.

Let me show you something...

If you read Acts 6, you will find Stephen being Stoned to Death.
You will find Paul there, as Saul.
This happened in Jerusalem......

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This thread is a great example of the folly of Abrahamic religions. None of them can ever demonstrate the other wrong, and it's nothing more than "what my beliefs say" getting thrown around with an unshakable belief everybody else is wrong.

 

[Bethel]

No crap? Really? I haven't heard.
Still doesn't excuse or pardon Christianity and the Gospels for getting it very wrong.

And what you are insinuating, does not excuse or pardon you for not being able to post any proof.
Insinuation, is not proof.

 

[Link]

This thread is a great example of the folly of Abrahamic religions. None of them can ever demonstrate the other wrong, and it's nothing more than "what my beliefs say" getting thrown around with an unshakable belief everybody else is wrong.

Perhaps the Quran has demonstrated where all other religions but true one go wrong and why and the reasons in detail. It certainly claims it has.

 

[Bethel]

Perhaps the Quran has demonstrated where all other religions but true one go wrong and why and the reasons in detail. It certainly claims it has.

Can you explain why Islam does not allow women into Allah's "paradise"?

 

[Brickjectivity]

This thread is a great example of the folly of Abrahamic religions. None of them can ever demonstrate the other wrong, and it's nothing more than "what my beliefs say" getting thrown around with an unshakable belief everybody else is wrong.

There is a plan in place to eventually overcome that objection, however it is taking a long time to work it out. The Christian scriptures indicate this, starting with the gospel of John. No individual or group is allowed to have Glory (the truth), however when all of Jesus disciples unite then his prayer might be answered that they will be glorified. It is a mystery, like an advanced teaching. Theoretically any Christian group which claims to have the entire truth but isn't united with all of Jesus disciples has not got much chance, because "God will not give his glory to another" or something like that. Its a scripture. I think the long term goal might be unity but not through argument. While it seems like a long shot to even hope for something like this it will be pretty impressive if and when it happens, perhaps impressive enough to act as evidence that the greatest context has been obtained.

 

[Link]

Can you explain why Islam does not allow women into Allah's "paradise"?

What do you mean?

 

[Link]

I've made many threads about proving God through logical proofs. I think you guys are twisting what they mean by preaching.

 

[Bethel]

What do you mean?

Is it true that Islamic women who die, or who martyr themselves for Allah", are not allowed into "paradise"?

Is it true that only Muslim MEN are allowed into Allah's Heaven? "Paradise"?

The reason i ask, is because Homosexuality is not allowed according to Islam.
So, Islamic "paradise" is "63 Virgins"....and so, if Islamic women went to that paradise, then they are committing homosexuality in allah's Heaven "paradise", so, that is why they are not allowed there.

Is this true?

 

[Link]

Is it true that Islamic women who die, or who martyr themselves up for Allah", are not allowed into "paradise"?

Is it true that only Muslim MEN are allowed into Allah's Heaven? "Paradise"?

Where do you get this notion from?

I'm terribly confused. According to Shiite hadiths, majority of the people who enter paradise are women.

 

[Link]

Is this true?

No it's not.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Oh yeah, it’s refutable!

Big-time refutable.

IMO, you are taking away from Yahweh (YHWH), His uniqueness & what rightfully belongs to Him, according to Exodus 20:1-4.

And Jesus can’t be YHWH, because then he was praying to himself in John 17, Matthew 26:39, etc.
If Jesus was YHWH, he wouldn’t have said, “Not as I will, but as You will.”

Christendom has been influenced and twisted the truth since it’s inception!