Another Trans attempts attack on schools

[Mock Turtle]

That isn’t a root cause, that is a contributing factor.

Well many would dispute that, given their societies seem to manage quite comfortably without such an abundance of guns, so that having weapons is not essential. Why is the USA so different?

And most of the options to reduce the gun deaths by the gun-lobbyists would seem to encroach on civil liberties and might never lessen the numbers of deaths. But of course the right to protect oneself from all the others who have weapons must be enshrined in law - given the Pew evidence seems to point out that about half of owners have one to protect themselves.

Perhaps it is down to insecurity, which is one of my possible explanations, and rightly so when so many others have guns. But also, it might be down to the fact that many just cannot envision a different America, perhaps one weakened in their eyes, or perhaps they see some loss from their heritage. Well, most nations do progress, but apparently not the USA.

What exactly do you think would reduce the number of senseless deaths?

 

[metis]

A Transsexual has been arrested for attempted murder. The suspect planned on attacking schools and churches.

Manifesto details former student's plans to carry out multiple Colorado Springs school shootings | KRDO

And if that was done by a heterosexual, would you have posted it here? Which is more common, Shaul?

 

[Soandso]

So does the boy scouts, girls scouts, gymnastics middle schools.......and on and on. Pedophiles are everywhere. Now boys can pretend to be girls and go into the girl's bathroom. What could possibly go wrong?

Slippery slope fallacy. Do you have evidence that shows transgender people are molesting women/girls more than non-transgender people, or are we just accusing an entire group of people of crimes?

 

[We Never Know]

So does the boy scouts, girls scouts, gymnastics middle schools.......and on and on. Pedophiles are everywhere. Now boys can pretend to be girls and go into the girl's bathroom. What could possibly go wrong?

I think I read somewhere teachers out numbered priest in sex offenses.

 

[Revoltingest]

So does the boy scouts, girls scouts, gymnastics middle schools.......and on and on. Pedophiles are everywhere. Now boys can pretend to be girls and go into the girl's bathroom. What could possibly go wrong?

A big difference is that only religions have a huge
power structure, which in cahoots with government,
protects pedophiles & ephebophiles.

 

[Soandso]

I think I read somewhere teachers out numbered priest in sex offenses.

Not sure if that's true or not, but that wouldn't surprise me. Predators seek opportunities where they can be alone with children, and teaching offers that opportunity for sure

 

[We Never Know]

Well many would dispute that, given their societies seem to manage quite comfortably without such an abundance of guns, so that having weapons is not essential. Why is the USA so different?

And most of the options to reduce the gun deaths by the gun-lobbyists would seem to encroach on civil liberties and might never lessen the numbers of deaths. But of course the right to protect oneself from all the others who have weapons must be enshrined in law - given the Pew evidence seems to point out that about half of owners have one to protect themselves.

Perhaps it is down to insecurity, which is one of my possible explanations, and rightly so when so many others have guns. But also, it might be down to the fact that many just cannot envision a different America, perhaps one weakened in their eyes, or perhaps they see some loss from their heritage. Well, most nations do progress, but apparently not the USA.

What exactly do you think would reduce the number of senseless deaths?

What exactly do you think would reduce the number of gun deaths?


Better storage
Stricter background checks
-including medical records
-including minor records
Tracking private guns sales
Having red flag laws

 

[Mock Turtle]

I think I read somewhere teachers out numbered priest in sex offenses.

As a percentage?

 

[We Never Know]

As a percentage?

I think it was by profession but don't remember.

 

[Shaul]

And if that was done by a heterosexual, would you have posted it here? Which is more common, Shaul?

So there is no reason not to post about it?

 

[Shaul]

I don't think anyone else has either.


Probably bad genes and bad parenting.

I think we could start with considering measures that would actually improve school security. Things such as increased security training of school personnel and more stringent prosecution of perpetrators.

 

[Shaul]

The current witch-hunt campaign against trans people is a convenient distraction from the gun issue.

What "current witch-hunt"? There isn't any such thing. The issue isn't guns. The issue is shooters.

 

[Soandso]

I think we could start with considering measures that would actually improve school security. Things such as increased security training of school personnel and more stringent prosecution of perpetrators.

I mean, more than half of mass shooters die, and most of those deaths are suicides... Are they really that concerned with what happens to them at that point or are they just trying to inflict as much damage as they can before they are taken down?

 

[Curious George]

Well many would dispute that, given their societies seem to manage quite comfortably without such an abundance of guns, so that having weapons is not essential. Why is the USA so different?

That would only make them bad at inference.

And most of the options to reduce the gun deaths by the gun-lobbyists would seem to encroach on civil liberties and might never lessen the numbers of deaths. But of course the right to protect oneself from all the others who have weapons must be enshrined in law - given the Pew evidence seems to point out that about half of owners have one to protect themselves.

Perhaps it is down to insecurity, which is one of my possible explanations, and rightly so when so many others have guns. But also, it might be down to the fact that many just cannot envision a different America, perhaps one weakened in their eyes, or perhaps they see some loss from their heritage. Well, most nations do progress, but apparently not the USA.

I suppose you can create hypothetical positions all day long.

What exactly do you think would reduce the number of senseless deaths?

A larger more robust MH care system available to all. A culture shift that eliminates the stigmatization of MH issues. More funding to schools to reduce the ratio of teacher to students to 1:10-or-fewer-students in all grades. Guaranteed provision of basic necessities to include safe, private and clean housing. An increase in the number of social workers with various social services agencies, at least on therapist per school with additional provided based on need. At least on social worker in each school with additional based on need. A shift in the competitive grant writing that facilitates more interagency cooperation and information sharing, a shift towards rehabilitation in our justice system, increased funding for substance use disorder and alcohol use disorder treatment programs, income caps, free collegiate education for students who can demonstrate aptness in a field. An overhaul of our drug laws to target large scale distribution and drugs based on impact and addictiveness. That is just the start…

 

[Shaul]

I mean, more than half of mass shooters die, and most of those deaths are suicides... Are they really that concerned with what happens to them at that point or are they just trying to inflict as much damage as they can before they are taken down?

That is why I mentioned increasing security training of school personnel. More of the shooters would be stopped sooner, or hopefully preemptively, and/or captured alive.

 

[Father Heathen]

What "current witch-hunt"? There isn't any such thing.

Sure, let's pretend there hasn't be a big push lately by the right against trans rights and representation. It's constantly in the news.

 

[Colt]

A reasonable, rational argument to make is that high-capacity gun magazines and AR-15 types of weapons should be regulated like explosives and chemicals.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think I read somewhere teachers out numbered priest in sex offenses.

Well, I certainly can't dispute that source.

I think we could start with considering measures that would actually improve school security. Things such as increased security training of school personnel and more stringent prosecution of perpetrators.

Prosecution & prison are already a strong sanction.
But school security improvement makes sense.
Trained armed school staff are better & safer than putting cops in schools.

 

[Mock Turtle]

A larger more robust MH care system available to all. A culture shift that eliminates the stigmatization of MH issues. More funding to schools to reduce the ratio of teacher to students to 1:10-or-fewer-students in all grades. Guaranteed provision of basic necessities to include safe, private and clean housing. An increase in the number of social workers with various social services agencies, at least on therapist per school with additional provided based on need. At least on social worker in each school with additional based on need. A shift in the competitive grant writing that facilitates more interagency cooperation and information sharing, a shift towards rehabilitation in our justice system, increased funding for substance use disorder and alcohol use disorder treatment programs, income caps, free collegiate education for students who can demonstrate aptness in a field. An overhaul of our drug laws to target large scale distribution and drugs based on impact and addictiveness. That is just the start…

So nothing about gun control laws at all?

 

[Father Heathen]

Trained armed school staff are better & safer than putting cops in schools.

I don't know if I would place faith in the lunch lady to turn into John Wick once the situation called for it.