Another Trans attempts attack on schools

[Revoltingest]

So nothing about gun control laws at all?

He did say it was "just the start".
I'll add secure storage laws, red flag laws, & improve
regulation of how one grants others access to one's guns..

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't know if I would place faith in the lunch lady to turn into John Wick once the situation called for it.

You'd place faith in thugs in blue who handcuff children,
or hide outside while a perp is inside the school still shooting?

Your "lunch lady" could be vetted & trained to defend the school
& occupants. She already works there for pay, she's already on site
if there's trouble, she's not trained to see all civilians as a threat,
she's not inculcated to believe she's better than civilians, she's
emotionally connected to the students, & she isn't trained to
have an itchy trigger finger.

BTW, have something against either ladies or cafeteria workers?

 

[Shaul]

Sure, let's pretend there hasn't be a big push lately by the right against trans rights and representation. It's constantly in the news.

That would be much better than pretending there is some witch hunt that doesn't exist except in the fevered imagination of some.

 

[Mock Turtle]

He did say it was "just the start".
I'll add secure storage laws, red flag laws, & improve
regulation of how one grants others access to one's guns..

Fair enough, but I think most looking into the USA from outside will see all such as decoration if they don't do something about the actual number of guns in circulation. Not that many will take a blind bit of notice for this view I know.

 

[Revoltingest]

That would be much better than pretending there is some witch hunt that doesn't exist except in the fevered imagination of some.

There actually is a witch hunt mentality from MAGA types.
They're rather unaccepting of even the existence of transgender
people, & they're making political hay from demonizing them.

 

[Revoltingest]

Fair enough, but I think most looking into the USA from outside will see all such as decoration if they don't do something about the actual number of guns in circulation.

I attribute it to refusal to see that pro-gun types
have any merit in their views. Anti-gun types want
to focus solely upon gun regulation or confiscation.
When I push both improved regulation and better
addressing of mental health, it goes largely un-noticed.

 

[Shaul]

There actually is a witch hunt mentality from MAGA types.
They're rather unaccepting of even the existence of transgender
people, & they're making political hay from demonizing them.

What definition of "existence" are you using?

 

[Revoltingest]

What definition of "existence" are you using?

Let's skip defining the word, since that's not the issue.
I've heard & read many MAGAs say that God created
men & women only. This is reasonable interpreted
to deny the existence of trans folk.
When their science book, the Bible, was written,
far less was known of the various human conditions,
eg, brain development aberrations, intersex genetics...

Intersex Conditions

Intersex conditions, also known as disorders of sex development (DSD), occur when infants are born with a mix of male and female genitalia. The defect lies within the chromosomes, gonads, or anatomical sex, and the degree to which the external and internal reproductive organs are affected varies.

www.urologists.org

 

[Father Heathen]

That would be much better than pretending there is some witch hunt that doesn't exist except in the fevered imagination of some.

You watch the news. You read and even participate the related threads. Don't embarrass yourself further by being disingenuous and obtuse.

 

[JDMS]

Sure, let's pretend there hasn't be a big push lately by the right against trans rights and representation. It's constantly in the news.

It's so bad that I can't stand looking at the news anymore. The number of threads about trans people cropping up here on this forum is making me consider bowing out until they pick a new scapegoat, too. It's exhausting.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I attribute it to refusal to see that pro-gun types
have any merit in their views. Anti-gun types want
to focus solely upon gun regulation or confiscation.
When I push both improved regulation and better
addressing of mental health, it goes largely un-noticed.

I don't see it as pro or anti with respect to guns, but more about the effects of just having so many available. I hope I tend to go with the evidence - as to the more things occur or are around in any society then more are affected by such things, and negatively in the case of guns. So, more about the deficits of having so many guns being available over any of their benefits.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think its good to practice 2nd amendment rights.

It's a sight quite common in colonial days.

Of course without all the modern web gear and rigging and all that.

Colonial days the best you can get is a muzzle loader. You really can't go on a shooting spree with something that requires a lengthy reload after one shot.

 

[Soandso]

That is why I mentioned increasing security training of school personnel. More of the shooters would be stopped sooner, or hopefully preemptively, and/or captured alive.

So ALERRT did a study on mass or attempted mass shootings from 2000 to 2021 and how they ended and this is what they found

Of 433 mass shooting scenerios, 22 were stopped by good guys with guns. This doesn't seem to be a reliable way to stop a growing problem, imo...

ANALYSIS: Who Stops a ‘Bad Guy With a Gun’?

The lengthy police response to a school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, and the death of an armed security guard as part of an attack on a Buffalo su...

www.allsides.com

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's why they need to be licensed and regulated.

Are you a troll, a bigot, or just stupid?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So you buy a gun legally for a couple hundred, sell it illegally for double the price and then go to the police and report it as "stolen".

You need to take this one step at a time.
Ok, In America it is a fact that many guns where purchased by someone allowed to have them and then given to someone who isn't. This could be sold, but it's often gifted.
This is an act that warrants criminal prosecution. And it's why we need to know who has the guns amd when they change hands. If it's your gun used a crime, it's your gun. There's some serious explaining to do with that. So mandate the reporting of lost and stolen guns (normally transfered guns, like inheritance must also be reported).
Amd what you presented is filling a false report and lying to the cops during an investigation and those are already illegal.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Are you a troll, a bigot, or just stupid?

Nope. Just using the same stupid logic used for guns.

Trans people are killing now, so it must be the Trans treatments, so requiring licensing and background checks are the solution to stop trans people from killing.

Stupid logic dosent work does it?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"guns being purchased under false pretense by a person allowed to own one"

Examples?

Jimbo can buy a gun. Jimmy can't. So Jimmy gives the money to Jimbo to go buy a gun for Jimmy. Jimbo goes and buys the gun and gives it to Jimmy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Nope. Just using the same stupid logic for guns.

Stupid logic dosent work does it?

What's stupid is you actually think that works.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What's stupid is you actually think that works.

Rightttttt....

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Clearly, we need Christianity control measures.

We just need to make priests mandatory reporters like teachers and cops and healthcare workers and others who are in better positions to see and learn of abuse.