Another Trans attempts attack on schools

[Jayhawker Soule]

We should consider increased prior identification measures of shooters ...

What does this mean? How might it be implemented?

 

[Twilight Hue]

If it's something else, what would that thing be that could kill as many people as an as assault style rifle could? Let's use the Las Vegas shooting as an example

Think ...

Timothy McVeigh.

Unibomber

Boston bombing

New Orleans mass murder in 1973

Mass Murder without Guns

There is much focus this week on the role of guns in mass murders. But the history of such atrocities teaches us that other methods can be just as effective.I am currently creating an encyclopedia of mass murder in America and have catalogued 504 incidents so far. Common methods used throughout...

news.yahoo.com

Guns are not the only means to and end for psychopathic mentally ill people.

 

[Soandso]

Think ...

Timothy McVeigh.

Unibomber

Boston bombing

New Orleans mass murder in 1973

Mass Murder without Guns

There is much focus this week on the role of guns in mass murders. But the history of such atrocities teaches us that other methods can be just as effective.I am currently creating an encyclopedia of mass murder in America and have catalogued 504 incidents so far. Common methods used throughout...

news.yahoo.com

Guns are not the only means to and end for psychopathic mentally ill people.

And yet there seems to be a distinct lack of bombings used in mass killings in the USA - especially in recent memory. It's a lot more difficult to build bombs and effectively deploy them in a crowded area than it is for your average joe to go to walmart or take your parent's guns to go on a shooting spree. Keep in mind how crafty the unibomber was vs. the average mass shooter

Another thing - why do other first world countries seem to lack all these psychopaths that kill mass amounts of people, if that's the reason?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If it's something else, what would that thing be that could kill as many people as an as assault style rifle could? Let's use the Las Vegas shooting as an example

It is a terribly bad arguement they use. It's pointless to do anything about people being able to easily kill many and wound a dozens more because people can use a knife or baseball bat which just will never have the deadliness of a gun.

 

[Quagmire]

Sometimes I wonder if part of the problem isn't that people think these problems can be solved by arguing about them on an internet forum.

Seriously, I wonder how many people would feel compelled to become involved in actual activism if they didn't have the option of getting it all out of their system in a place like this one.

Makes me wonder if I'm doing society a disservice by helping to run the place.

 

[Soandso]

Sometimes I wonder if part of the problem isn't that people think these problems can be solved by arguing about them on an internet forum.

Seriously, I wonder how many people would feel compelled to become involved in actual activism if they didn't have the option of getting it all out of their system in a place like this.

Makes me wonder if I'm doing society a disservice by helping to run the place.

Eh... Don't forget that the discussion that gets hashed out here spills over into our lives, too. With better arguments come more persuasive talking points for people to bring with them over thanksgiving dinner. Maybe that can help influence future votes?

 

[Twilight Hue]

It is a terribly bad arguement they use. It's pointless to do anything about people being able to easily kill many and wound a dozens more because people can use a knife or baseball bat which just will never have the deadliness of a gun.

33 Dead, 130 Injured in China Knife-Wielding Spree

<p>State officials blame the attack in Yunnan province on separatist 'terrorists.'</p>

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

10 dead, 15 hospitalized in Canada mass stabbing attacks, police say

Two suspects were still on the loose Sunday evening, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said.

www.cbsnews.com

FBI data shows nearly 3x as many people were killed by knives than rifles of any kind in 2020

FBI crime data for 2020 shows that knives were over two and a half times more likely to be used in homicides than any kind of rifle.

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

 

[Jimmy]

Soon legislation will change. I can feel it in the air.

 

[Jimmy]

Think ...

Timothy McVeigh.

Unibomber

Boston bombing

New Orleans mass murder in 1973

Mass Murder without Guns

There is much focus this week on the role of guns in mass murders. But the history of such atrocities teaches us that other methods can be just as effective.I am currently creating an encyclopedia of mass murder in America and have catalogued 504 incidents so far. Common methods used throughout...

news.yahoo.com

Guns are not the only means to and end for psychopathic mentally ill people.

Right but legislation needs to change. Anyone with sense can see that

 

[Shadow Wolf]

When I talk about mental health, I am using an umbrella term for things that would include PTSD AND CPTSD, poor coping skills, deficits in interpersonal functioning, deficits in emotional regulation, impulsivity, addiction, neuroticism, and high emotional reactivity. None of these things are in and of themselves to blame or determinants of violence, but they are things that can be addressed to reduce violence overall and improve the lives of even those who struggle with these issues and will never act out aggressively towards self or others.

I get that.
Ultimately it won't do that much to help mass shootings. Many, many shooters don't even have a history of mental illness. It won't address spur of the moment amd spontaneous gun violence which is also a nasty problem in America. Seriously, it's legal "sane and healthy" adults who whip out a gun and wave it around during a verb altercation. That's because we are animals who tend to seek to control the situan we are in, especially when we perceive a threat or danger.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Soon legislation will change. I can feel it in the air.

It's always happening, with the trend to make it easier to get and carry guns.

 

[Jimmy]

It's always happening, with the trend to make it easier to get and carry guns.

It’ll change. I can promise that

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Remember that time honored adage?

"Guns don't kill people. People kill people".

If it ain't a gun, it will be something else.

And that addage is as dumb as it gets. You might as well say lead pipes didn't poison ancient Romans, the ancient Romans did. And that is just as equally dumb.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It’ll change

Tbe last time I saw any serious or meaningful attempt at this was about 30 years ago when Clinton was in office. Ever since it's been mostly useless acts like how Trump banned bumpstocks.

 

[We Never Know]

Jimbo can buy a gun. Jimmy can't. So Jimmy gives the money to Jimbo to go buy a gun for Jimmy. Jimbo goes and buys the gun and gives it to Jimmy.

That's not really false pretenses, it breaking the law, illegal.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

33 Dead, 130 Injured in China Knife-Wielding Spree

<p>State officials blame the attack in Yunnan province on separatist 'terrorists.'</p>

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

10 dead, 15 hospitalized in Canada mass stabbing attacks, police say

Two suspects were still on the loose Sunday evening, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said.

www.cbsnews.com

FBI data shows nearly 3x as many people were killed by knives than rifles of any kind in 2020

FBI crime data for 2020 shows that knives were over two and a half times more likely to be used in homicides than any kind of rifle.

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

That just doesn't have the numbers guns do.
And your arguement is so pathetically desperate you have to compare knife attacks to rifles. Why not just admit defeat amd you don't know what your talking about as rifles aren't the primary firearms used in crime. That distinction goes to handguns. And what part of guns make it easier do you not understand?

 

[Soandso]

33 Dead, 130 Injured in China Knife-Wielding Spree

<p>State officials blame the attack in Yunnan province on separatist 'terrorists.'</p>

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

10 dead, 15 hospitalized in Canada mass stabbing attacks, police say

Two suspects were still on the loose Sunday evening, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said.

www.cbsnews.com

FBI data shows nearly 3x as many people were killed by knives than rifles of any kind in 2020

FBI crime data for 2020 shows that knives were over two and a half times more likely to be used in homicides than any kind of rifle.

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

I like how that last article's title neglects to include pistols! Who's going to commit a homicide with a rifle? Are we going to hide it under a trenchcoat? Pistols are the preferred method for murder for their ease of concealment and they know this - no one is suggesting rifles are being used en masse in murders. The spin doctoring is kind of ridiculous

As for knives, yes. They can and will be used in murders. Their ease of concealment and ease of access are useful to achieve that. A guy with a knife won't be able to achieve what the las vegas shooter did, though

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I like how that last article neglects to include pistols! Who's going to commit a homicide with a rifle? Are we going to hide it under a trenchcoat? Pistols are the preferred method for murder for their ease of concealment and they know this. The spin doctoring is kind of ridiculous

As for knives, yes. They can and will be used in murders. Their ease of concealment and ease of access are useful to achieve that. A guy with a knife won't be able to achieve what the las vegas shooter did, though

Amd the internet is filled with videos of idiots making stuff from the Anarchist Cookbook and having it blow up on them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It’ll change. I can promise that

That's not a promise you can make, hold or fulfill.

 

[Jimmy]

That's not a promise you can make, hold or fulfill.

You’ll see.